Goldman writes: 

"I told Jobs that I had sat down with Microsoft's Robbie Bach last week at the Consumer Electronics Show.  I mentioned that Bach was particularly optimistic about the new Zune, that it was now a worthy alternative to Apple's iPod.

Asked Jobs: 

"Was he inebriated?  Do you even know anyone who owns a Zune?" 

Touched a nerve, I suppose."

What's Steve's deal?  What's Zune ever did to you Steve?  I know quite a few people with Zunes as a matter of fact!  Could Zune be doing better than Jobs' planned?  This is obviously unprofessional of Apple's CEO to bash Robbie Bach as well as our beloved Zune. But this isn't the first time Steve's bashed Microsoft.   

You got any thoughts?

[CNBC via MacDailyNews] 

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boxhunter   | 122.106.120.xxx | 2008-01-17 16:01:59 It's preety obvious that he has a bit of a tingle going up his spine. His nervous and he doesnt want to show it. Reply | Quote 5   2

ex-zuner   | 209.173.124.xxx | 2008-01-17 16:11:15 Well im not going to lie the newest generations of ipods are way better than the zunes. I just bought a touch and with the "jailbrake" hack its awesome. He can do whatever he wants. hes rich. Reply | Quote 2   35

Anonymous   | 220.233.87.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:38:10 Enjoy paying for your firmware upgrade. Reply | Quote 14   1

Phil   | 66.235.37.xxx | 2008-01-19 08:38:29 All I have to say to every Ipod fan is,...3.2 inch screen AND 80gb! Reply | Quote 2   1

Tobososlow   | 75.4.151.xxx | 2008-01-17 16:17:47 Glad you had to hack it for it to be awesome. Reply | Quote 16   0

MyDingo21 - hahahah   | 76.16.160.xxx | 2008-01-17 16:29:57 well i think i would be pretty mad to see that the competition is close to being better than me hahahah . i do think the new ipods are a little better . i really wish someone makes some kind of firmware update that'll install a clock on the zune i mean it weould help me out sometimes so i wouldn't have to carry other stuff besides the zune Reply | Quote 2   15

fieldcar   | 216.170.214.xxx | 2008-01-17 16:37:32 Man, did the zune 2.0 piss in every apple fanboy/steve jobs' cup of starbucks? I think so. Reply | Quote 15   0

Jacob - Steve jobs is a loser   | 68.204.181.xxx | 2008-01-17 16:40:54 Zune pwn's ipod in every way! WAAA! I do not want a clock to stuff up my menus on my zune! ZUNE IS WAAAY BETTER THAN IPOD! Microsoft is better than apple! GO BILL GATES! Reply | Quote 11   1

bobbeh - wow   | 67.173.113.xxx | 2008-01-17 17:03:02 In the past few weeks alone, I've seen at least 10 DIFFERENT people at my school with a Zune. And most of the kids at my school are trend following dumbasses, so I found that a little surprising. Reply | Quote 7   0

Anonymous   | 24.254.231.xxx | 2008-01-17 17:10:08 What's Zune ever did to you Steve? Competition, pure and simple, hes been alone for so long and hasnt had to do anything to sell ipods now that there is competition he is scrambling Reply | Quote 7   0

kurukato   | 76.111.51.xxx | 2008-01-17 17:11:47 I've seen about 15 people walkin around my school with zunes(old and new) Reply | Quote 7   0

Sooks - more and more zunes   | 12.197.57.xxx | 2008-01-18 17:29:05 Ive been seeing ALOT of ppl in my school with zunes now and the number is just increasing. Even some of my friends, one of whom has an ipod touch likes the zune better.....no joke. Reply | Quote 4   0

Luke Ashley   | 207.118.180.xxx | 2008-01-17 17:14:08 Ok, i just want to say this. Microsoft sucks. The xbox 360 was origionally designed by apple. I must say... bill gates is a marketing genious. he put out cheap, affordable products that all of the businesses bought. They spent millions training their staff to use this... and the world got stuck on microsoft. They spent so much money into it, that pulling out would cost billions in retraining their staff, and since we use it at work, it has taken over as a personal pc. Apple has superior products, they always have, they always will, especially if they continue with their itouch line. They are priced more because of the time spent in developing superior products. when they release something, it is the best possible product available at that time, instead of cobbling something together and launching it. There are well over 300,000 computer virus known for windows, with hundreds launched per day. for a mac, 1. and that has been patched. Vista is their greatest, and has the most amount of ... Reply | Quote 0   47

ThorzHamer   | 24.171.2.xxx | 2008-01-17 17:52:28 WOW you are a smart one.... freaking troll Reply | Quote 6   0

hummmmmph   | 76.20.126.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:07:45 wait i' m confused did you just say the xbox 360 was originally designed by apple, are you retarded? And the only reason there are so little viruses for the mac is because it would be a waist of time to write one because the mass majority of people have windows dumb *ss Reply | Quote 9   0

Anonymous   | 220.233.87.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:40:31 You can't seriously be suggesting that the 90's versions of Mac OS were better than windows. I had to use OS 8.6 on a daily basis for three years and I still look back on those days and cringe. Reply | Quote 10   0

john doe   | 69.226.17.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:46:38 so you're telling me .. back in well probably 1999 .. 'cause the first xbox came out in 2001 .. you're telling me that it was apples idea first? .. why would apple be going into the gaming industry back in 2001 when apple wasn't even that popular .. i believe apple got popular after there macbook pro came out .. and nobody even knew about there ipod until the 3rd or 4th generation came out ... look at Kevin Rose he had a IBM laptop, then he switched to macbook pro when it came out .. superior products? whatever im done, your a really ignorant person .. you probably got stuck in the whole 'apple craze' when macbook pro came out .. who knows .. i dont .. .. and it has viruses 'cause yes, mass majority of people still use windows .. Reply | Quote 6   0

Cory - You're a dumbass   | 24.119.23.xxx | 2008-01-17 19:45:19 The xbox 360 wasn't made by apple, good lord do you live in a box. apple doesn't even make games. Reply | Quote 7   0

RCUltimate - Wow....   | 70.187.80.xxx | 2008-01-18 08:45:38 Ummm....maybe Windows has thousands of viruses on it because retards like you install them yourselves...Oh...and by the way...Windows also has all the games. When I go to a game store or see a commercial I don't notice anything about iMacs....hmmm. Yes, iMacs are nice, but I'll rather by a cheaper Windows computer becuase Apple always has newer iMacs coming out. I really don't want to spend $700 for an updated computer... As for the Xbox 360...hmmm what sounds better? Xbox 360 or iGame *shudder*. So before you go dissing Microsoft, make sure you have some proven facts you little troll Reply | Quote 2   0

Surkit   | 72.193.194.xxx | 2008-01-18 09:41:50 First, 360 designed by apple? I don't know what to say to such a moronic statement. Second, Apple has been around a lot longer then Microsoft, the only problem is they have sucky products and management. Third, You come on a zune site to bash Microsoft? I think you should stop using safari and go back to bed. Forth, Mac is every bit a weak as windows, just it's a waste of time because no one has one. Reply | Quote 2   0

Zune pwn ipod - Microsoft was first!   | 68.204.181.xxx | 2008-01-18 12:20:04 Any microsoft fanboy should know that microsoft started in 1975 and apple started in 1976! MICROSOFT WAS FIRST! THEN APPLE STARTED! Reply | Quote 0   0

Sooks - 0.0   | 12.197.57.xxx | 2008-01-18 17:40:29 I really dont see how Macs are different from PC's, the only thing that makes a Mac different is the OS, which I think is a complete rip off of Linux Reply | Quote 2   0

I can read why can't your - Ahhh what?????   | 209.234.142.xxx | 2008-01-19 14:01:58 The x-box was not designed by Apple in any way shape or form Luke. And though you have your own opinion of which I respect, you are obviously a an apple fan so the zune will suck to you no matter how much better it is. I have owned both. bottom line the Zune doesn't freeze the ipod does; freqenetly in fact, just like every mac os ever released and the touch wheel doesn't ware out after being touched slightley hard, I don't know any one and I know many who have an ipod that does not give them problems. Every Body I know that owns a Zune icluding my self has had no problems . At least Microsoft will admit a flaw and try to fix it instead of pretending it does not exist. Yes people Steve Jobs is nervous. His only clame to success at the momment is going to eventually be overshadowed by Bill Gated just like everything else apple has done. Reply | Quote 1   0

Anonymous   | 71.15.92.xxx | 2008-01-22 05:17:53 Sorry to ask this, but does not Uncle Gates own a significan share in Apples Stock. I think he bought it n the '90s just to keep Apple from going out of buisness. Reply | Quote 1   0

mhonaker01     | 76.205.123.xxx | 2008-01-22 10:40:11 he has only one part of his info correct, key word is "part" here microsoft did in fact purchase a large amount of mac computers from apple for the proccessors, so they could be used in there xbox 360, that was actually said by bill gates during a recorded meeting with steve jobs. as for 360 being designed by apple......... yeah seriously you need to read something, anything Reply | Quote 0   0

Zazuneafoon   | 74.12.244.xxx | 2008-01-17 17:30:37 He's just angry because another company is getting close to beating them. Just wait till Zunes get to Canada, then you will see Microsoft jump ahead massively. Reply | Quote 3   0

1ofamillion   | 64.130.187.xxx | 2008-01-17 17:38:13 he should die Reply | Quote 5   0

Shadoblak   | 68.73.200.xxx | 2008-01-17 17:41:04 Hm...Seems pretty juvenile...I'm finding new people all the time who own Zunes, and other people who want one....I always hear people comparing the Zune 2 to the iPod touch, when they really aren't even the same product...The Zune 80 is a competitor to the iPod Classic, which is not as good. Thats why nobody compares them. I don't have 500 bucks to waste on low storage because I can poke it and it has the internet...Sorry Jobs.. Reply | Quote 5   0

Surkit   | 72.193.194.xxx | 2008-01-18 09:45:55 Not to mention the cost of finger condoms. http://www.boingboing.net/2007/10/18/phone-fingers-keep-i.html Reply | Quote 1   0

john doe   | 69.226.17.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:20:02 i bet Bill Gates is laughing out loud after he read this hahaha .. Reply | Quote 5   0

jahazielsoto   | 76.166.141.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:26:18 steve jobs...stinks ex-zuner.....hope you die!!! microsoft.......rock on Reply | Quote 4   2

Crash   | 76.84.174.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:27:37 I went over to Mac Daily news on this one and posted a comment about this. Man You should see those fanbois delusions coming out over there. Reply | Quote 4   1

Anonymous - re:   | 207.225.67.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:34:56 hummmmmph wrote: wai t i' m confused did you just say the xbox 360 was originally designed by apple, are you retarded? And the only reason there are so little viruses for the mac is because it would be a waist of time to write one because the mass majority of people have windows dumb *ss i agree if apple was that desperate to get profit they would have made a console, but their doing pretty good for what they make. apples are for people that do alot of multimedia things and iMovie is the best video editing software out there. The mac commercials are pretty funny too, but the last one pissed me off. "leopard runs faster then vista" this is untrue because the only computers apple sells are top of the line while people that still only have 512 MB of RAM trying to run vista cause there stupid and then go complain about how slow it runs. Reply | Quote 3   2

Anonymous   | 220.233.87.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:42:17 Apples aren't even that great for video editing now that they use Intel processors. Reply | Quote 5   1

dSharp75 - Zune really is a competitor   | 75.22.31.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:45:58 Let's be real. While I'm an avid supportor of the Zune from my first black zune 30 to my new kick@$$ Zune 80, let's address some realities. Apple did come out with a great product...5 years ago. Apple's product are consistently higher priced than any one else. Both MS and Apple swipe from each other, it's part of the nature of competition. But...Apple eventually appealed to the masses with the slim nano and all the sheep followed suit. Rather than investigate the alternatives, sheep saw simple ads and thought "ooh" and next thing you know iPods are a household name - give credit where credit's due. However, Apple tout's itself as an elitest society - don't believe me? Go to an Apple store. Apples in general are for idi...sorry had to quote that from SNL; they are waaaaay overpriced, again, elitest mentality and combined with the ridiculous notion that price = quality, people are suckered into this. But MS introduced the social. While at first it was sad that only I saw me o... Reply | Quote 4   1

Jzune   | 72.166.1.xxx | 2008-01-17 18:56:20 I know a buttload of people who own zunes. i also know some people who are owned by apple. Jobs should watch what he says it might come back to bite him later on. Reply | Quote 3   1

Leif902 - ...     | 75.89.38.xxx | 2008-01-17 19:13:35 I don't know which is better, Zune or iPod (I'd say Zune over iPod Classic and iPod Touch over anything else unless you're a serious audiofile, then Zune all the way) And I don't want to get into the fanboy rant for either side, but I have to admit that comment is kind of creepy, a CEO of a major corporation should know better. - Leif P.S. as for "What's Zune ever did to you Steve?"... the answer is encroach on iPods market value. P.P.S. I do admit I have a grudge against iTunes (not apple, I love apple, just not the iPod line)... I've bought video from the iTunes music store, it never got downloaded, my card was charged, customer support was completely useless, it took me 30 minutes just to sign into iTunes the first time because it kept dropping the connection and about 50 other things... Take my comments with a grain of salt if you will, but I try to still be fair. Reply | Quote 3   2

DUBEDITION209   | 70.135.103.xxx | 2008-01-17 21:43:04 i guess im going to have to start bashing crapple fanboys again. **** the icrap, **** the iphart, **** the ipood, **** the itouchlittleboys, and **** all thoes smug **** eating granola loving fanfags dont ban me im sorry lol Reply | Quote 3   2

ipodhatea   | 76.216.64.xxx | 2008-01-17 20:09:26 I have convinced 3 people to get a zune so far who have all seen ipods. Go zune!!! Reply | Quote 3   1

dkmccue - iPod bites     | 71.255.54.xxx | 2008-01-17 20:23:02 When I got my first Zune, I got onto the subway here in NYC and looked for people on the wifi. For the first 9 months, every day, I got nothing. Now, I get on the train and I have to scroll through the list! I even met a podder who looked over and saw my Zune, and the next thing I know we're comparing the two. At the end of it, he was totally in love with my Zune. One of my office mates liked my 30 gig Zune so much, she bought one for herself, and one for her mother. Even my partner, who loves his iPod, reluctantly admitted to me that the 30 gig Zune was better. I have an 80 gig now, and I am even more impressed than ever. So, in my opinion, Steve Job's is scared to death that his one true money maker is going to fall apart in front of him. He's starting to feel cornered, and cornered animals attack. Reply | Quote 5   1

original owner   | 74.232.150.xxx | 2008-01-17 20:26:57 I think that there is always a catch 22 with all of these new products. In reality...none of them have to cost as much as they do. Development or not, Microsoft screwed up with the release of this new "Crappy" Software. I am making them pay for for it by sending me some premium headphones!!!! Reply | Quote 5   1

pete rock   | 70.111.246.xxx | 2008-01-17 21:48:40 they soooo good i have 2 Reply | Quote 1   1

NightFire   | 75.36.19.xxx | 2008-01-17 22:37:39 Hmm, what do animals do when they get nervous? They attack. He's nervous about the Zune because guess what, one of the two things Apple is known for is starting to fall, and what happens if it does? Someone may start looking for a job, I wonder if Microsoft will get him on track yet again. Reply | Quote 1   1

Bman22 - I Fcking hate this guy   | 76.113.4.xxx | 2008-01-17 22:45:34 Not only is he part of the company that produces the worlds crappiest crap, he hates on the best device and its maker. I guess he doesn't want to give away the fact that he owns one. Even a freak like him probably recognizes the awesomeness of the almighty zune, and he is ashamed about it. Reply | Quote 2   1

wetworker - GUYS MAC ARE SO ORIGINAL     | 99.234.141.xxx | 2008-01-18 01:00:12 http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future Reply | Quote 1   2

Raw - Steve's anger   | 88.160.248.xxx | 2008-01-18 01:04:22 So funny! I'm living in France and since I have a zune (30Gb then 80Gb), all guys in my school want one (including those wich were ipod's sect members and teachers). We're waiting for them in europe! Most of us are just upset with their "high costs for nothing" campaign. ZUNE ROXXXX! Reply | Quote 1   1

jb14079 - finally...   | 75.11.173.xxx | 2008-01-18 01:07:00 Ha! Zunes own! not pwn, but they OWN...get it right people! Reply | Quote 1   2

Jenn - Denal ain't just a river in E     | 71.182.233.xxx | 2008-01-18 10:12:57 What a joke, Steve Jobs. I was in Walmart last week and a teenage girl wwas showing her mom the Zune She wanted. Maybe Jobs said that becasue he is sorrounded by apple worshippers. Reply | Quote 1   0

Rob - This is news?   | 209.227.18.xxx | 2008-01-18 11:45:10 Yet when Steve Ballmer laughed that the iPhone was the most expensive phone in the world (which it never was) and then went on to say that Microsoft makes millions of phones (which they don't), no one bats an eye. Just so everyone knows, this sort of thing isn't new, and the CEO of Microsoft (Ballmer) is the greater of two evils. Reply | Quote 0   6

Korneel - Steve Jobs - American idiot     | 84.198.75.xxx | 2008-01-18 12:29:27 You can change the image of the article with this one: [img]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w43/nu_ikke/ STEVEJOBSamericanidi otwithoutapp-1.png[/img] Reply | Quote 0   0

Korneel - Sorry     | 84.198.75.xxx | 2008-01-18 12:43:16 I see my picture didn't show up, maybe this one works... [IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w43/nu_ikke/FinalBLACKversion.jpg[/IMG] Reply | Quote 1   0

Korneel - Link     | 84.198.75.xxx | 2008-01-18 12:44:38 Oké, I just give you the link. You may change the artcle-picture by this one: http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w43/nu_ikke/FinalBLACKversion.jpg Reply | Quote 1   0

Tyler   | 76.212.183.xxx | 2008-01-18 13:04:34 hes right. I don't know anyone who owns a zune nor is interested in getting one. I tunes is owning zune marketplace in content and the "cool features" on my zune like wi-fi and video I can't use because it's impossible to find a converter for my videos and no one has a zune! God should have bought a creative... Reply | Quote 0   1

Shadoblak   | 68.73.200.xxx | 2008-01-18 13:21:35 kay, 1. get out and meet some people dude! 2. Neither is 100% DRM free, there are better alternatives to both, just throwing that out there.... 3. There are tons of articles and even a few here with a list of good converters, there are also man who would recommend one to you... 4. Didn't creative discontinue all of their good players?? all I could find now are those little 1 or 2 gb models.... Reply | Quote 1   0

Shadoblak   | 68.73.200.xxx | 2008-01-18 13:22:43