No EQ: Good or Bad?
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Tuesday, 20 November 2007

eqYou may or may not know the new Zunes do not come with an EQ.  None.  Zip.  Nada.  Why is that when the Zune 30 does?  Well Microsoft told Donald Bell in his latest article, in which he addresses issues he had with the new Zunes, the old Zunes' hardware will support an EQ, but the newer Zunes have different hardware which push 32 ohms to the headphones, which (i'm assuming) makes having an EQ unnessary.  MS contends the new Zunes have superior sound.  Read on...

zunebackMicrosoft's decision to remove the EQ was very deliberate. In fact, when I spoke with Microsoft about the EQ issue, I learned that the EQ removal goes down to the very roots of the hardware, where they optimized the audio signal path to maximize both audio quality and battery life. In other words, don't expect Microsoft to add EQ back into the Zune with a firmware upgrade--the new hardware simply doesn't support it.....Despite my whimpering about the removal of the EQ, Microsoft seems fairly confident that the latest crop of Zunes offer audio quality equal or better than the first-gen Zunes (which many considered better than the iPod's). In an e-mail conversation I had with Jason Reindorp, Zune's marketing director, he said, "we've gone to great lengths to ensure top quality throughout like with the signal path, delivering 32 ohms to the headsets, ensuring we compare very favorably to other devices like iPod in terms of signal to noise ratio."

From personal experience, I would have to agree with MS.  My new Zune 80 sounds much deeper, more rich than my Zune 30 with the same earbuds.  The processor is much faster (just watch the boot up screen for the Zune 80 - the Zune 30 moves uniformly, but the new Zunes power through as they start up the new firmware - skipping and booting much faster)

But what does Microsoft know?  What do I know?  What do you think?  Head on into the forums where there's a poll for you to vote and give your own personal views.

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Federal111     | 24.46.97.xxx | 2007-11-20 01:55:19
Hmm, I guess it would be a better choice. Definitely would improve battery life though.
1031982   | 76.209.57.xxx | 2007-11-20 02:46:02
Well, if the new Zunes offer better sound quality without the EQ, I don't see a problem. The only way I see an issie is if quality is decreased and it's removed.
Guest User   | 71.205.169.xxx | 2007-11-20 03:46:14
EQ is pointless IMO, glad they got rid of it [smiley=happy]
wetworker   | 99.234.141.xxx | 2007-11-20 03:57:35
I just hope it sound good, i'm a bass head. i can't stand music without base, sound like 80's pop
Guest User   | 69.222.65.xxx | 2007-11-20 05:04:44
From a music perspective I'm not sure the EQ buys you much. However as a means to compensate for particular headsets/earbuds it can be useful. Not everyone can afford high end headphones and there is wide variation among earbuds. As far as the hardware not supporting it, balony. I'm assuming they stuck with the ARM processor in which case they can process it any way they want.
Guest User   | 208.77.34.xxx | 2007-11-20 13:13:33
What EQ on the Zune 30? When did this happen? Where do I find it?
NightFire   | 75.43.58.xxx | 2007-11-20 16:51:43
settings-music-equalizer. You have 8 options. New Zunes, nothing, not a big deal for me though, I always used "none" just because it lessened the battery life and it was how the songs were ment to be heard. Pretty sweet if the sound quality is better, which I bet it would be, just can't wait until I can find one.
BrianLikesZune   | 24.197.219.xxx | 2007-11-20 17:29:25
When you say not everyone can afford them though, MS provides a really nice pair of earbuds with the zune package. They thought of everything. =D
Guest User   | 10.41.112.xxx | 2007-11-20 17:42:13
This is true with the zune 80 package, but the other zunes still have a fairly cheap set of earbuds. Further, I can tell you that the ipod earbuds just don't fit comfortably so I had to purchase a different set. The Sony set that I finally settled on are exceptionally comfortable, but seem to have too much bass for my tastes, so I use the EQ to cut it down.

Bottom line, a listening experience is personal, and just like custom wallpaper an EQ is nothing more then another way to personalize the experience.
southside   | 70.89.4.xxx | 2007-11-20 20:18:14
Thats got to be one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while.
Changing the impedence effecting the eq curve? No two headsets/earphones are the same. They all react differently to any given output, therefor removing the EQ is pretty dumb. Not only does that deter me from purchasing a new Zune, it makes me wonder if I should even bother searching for some good earbuds to make my current Zune comfortable to listen to.
Guest User   | 38.115.184.xxx | 2007-11-20 23:49:05
The upgrade interface is pissing me off royally![smiley=angr
y]
Guest User     | 99.228.193.xxx | 2007-11-22 19:32:31
MS decision to remove EQ is totally dumb.Well I was thinking to buy Zune this x mas but after hearing this I wont be buying one.Anyways I am in Canada so there wont be any zune before spring so there is a very nice possibility of getting Ipod Classic[smiley=evil]
Guest User   | 99.228.193.xxx | 2007-11-22 19:36:09
Zune looks good, nice big screen, FM, podcast,customizable
backgrounds but a big bummer NO EQUALIZERS[smiley=an
gry] what were they thinking?[smiley=think]
Guest User   | 216.235.172.xxx | 2007-11-22 23:42:06
the new software SUCKS- I am tempted to get rid of my formerly beloved Zune now!
TimmyTowery   | Registered | 2008-02-13 10:06:53
the software doesnt suck and the sound is really good especially with the premiere head phones they give off a good bass and mids and highs... the 80 gig zune is the best one you can buy out of the zune choices...my opinion its the best mp3 player ever and has the best earphones and the best look to it...peace
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