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Written by ACE   
Saturday, 15 September 2007

Now before you go on a flame tantrum, please read the following:

I'm not one to be a doomsday activist, but a recent article by TGD analyst Brion Feinberg, Ph.D. had me thinking.  Not only is the Zune in danger (he actually mentions iPod), but the whole MP3 player industry is in jeopardy, he says.

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Feinberg predicts in the next few years, the stand alone MP3 player will reach its peak of popularity and begin to slowly fade away.  "Within ten years, these devices will be relegated to museum shelves next to the vinyl LP and the 8-track player" he says.

What?  How's that?  So what will take the place of my MP3 player?  

Feinberg believes the mobile phone will.  "Even Apple is aware of this inevitability, thus one reason for rolling out the iPhone."

Which led me to believe why, a couple weeks ago, Microsoft showed signs of looking into doing a Zune phone (again?).  "It wouldn't be unreasonable to think at some point there might some integrated thing," Mindy Mount, chief financial officer of Microsoft's entertainment and devices division, told investors at Citigroup's global technology conference.

Feinberg sites six reasons why this shift will occur:

1.  Simply stated, mobile phones make great music players.

2.  Music phones are less expensive when compared to buying separate mobile phones and portable music players.

3.  Convenience implies carrying one device is better than carrying two.

4.  Music phones will be less expensive than stand-alone music players.

5.  Outside the U.S., music phones are already dominating.

6.  Flash memory continues to improve.

Feinberg's analysis is not something to taken lightly.  His 27 years of experience and specialization in business analysis certainly brings some weight to his words.

So the Zune Phone could be a reality after all?  We shall see...


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Guest User   | 209.33.108.xxx | 2007-09-15 14:21:16
oh I love analyst. He'z probably right, but any bafoon knows this.
dezrt   | 75.80.254.xxx | 2007-09-15 16:12:32
that might be so. Microsoft better come out with something to rivel the iphone.
Guest User   | 24.79.154.xxx | 2007-09-15 17:46:28
damn it upgrade the current zune now
LancerRevolution   | 69.152.156.xxx | 2007-09-15 18:09:12
they just better make a cool new feature on our old zune soon and add more compatability with vids and media,i didnt pay almost 300$ for something thats gonna die,so hurry up microsoft,we are tired of waiting so long since you effed us over with the last update on firm"better shuffle"CMON!
Guest User   | 72.94.94.xxx | 2007-09-15 18:11:39
Who would even want a zune 10 years from now
Roschili   | 68.47.221.xxx | 2007-09-15 18:36:41
ok microsoft...we're all waiting

new zune plz?
dezrt   | 75.80.254.xxx | 2007-09-15 19:26:11
LancerRevolut
ion wrote:
they just better make a cool new feature on our old zune soon and add more compatability with vids and media,i didnt pay almost 300$ for something thats gonna die,so hurry up microsoft,we are tired of waiting so long since you effed us over with the last update on firm"better shuffle"CMON!


amen!
FlyingIsFun1217     | 76.203.41.xxx | 2007-09-15 19:38:38
I prefer my phone to have decent battery life. And considering I use my mp3 player QUITE often, I would have to charge every night. Not gonna happen.
Guest User   | 75.3.72.xxx | 2007-09-15 21:24:17
I could give a sh** about the Zune phone and acutally prefer separation of my MP3 player from my cell phone. Getting a phone call while listening to tunes on my Zune at the gym is the last thing I'd want, when I'm working out.
[smiley=laugh]

Jay K.
dezrt   | 75.80.254.xxx | 2007-09-15 22:27:38
i agree. Zunes not doomed unless microsoft doesnt comeout with anymore firmware. (better ones)
Guest User   | 67.190.136.xxx | 2007-09-15 22:36:00
i dont think dat will happen tho cause not everyone can get phone service and mp3 phones kill ur battery idk i hope wat he predicted doesnt happen
RemNever   | 71.83.115.xxx | 2007-09-16 00:46:13
I have a zune and my motorola krazr has an mp3 player also. I never use the mp3 player on my phone even though I have a 1gb card in it. Like others have said I want to keep my phone and mp3 player separate.. I don't walk around and listen to my zune. I usually listen to it while working out, driving, snowboarding, or dirt bike riding.
Guest User   | 170.215.248.xxx | 2007-09-16 02:22:35
six reasons why shift will not occur

mp3 and phone sharing the same battery... never a good idea

small a** movie screen (one sole advantage zune currently has on ipod)

small hd space, there are people who want more than a few gigs on their mp3/movie devise.

your mp3 player will now be married to your wireless provider, since we know not every mp3 phone will be offered by every carriar

#4 ??music phones will be less expensive than stand-alone music players?? --- by that did you mean my lg phone that plays music from a micro sd, or the new iPhone! if microsoft came out with an music phone, do you really think its going to be cheaper? and if it will be cheaper, dont we already have those? just visit your verizon /tmobile store, they already exist. i dont think anyone needs microsoft to enter the phone industry. if they will enter the compete with iphone industry, then number 4 is a pretty stupid argument IMO

okay i cant come up with a 6th, whatever, i thought the six...
Guest User   | 162.84.72.xxx | 2007-09-16 02:59:40
microsoft better come out with some tight upgrades for zune users...
Skiks   | Registered | 2007-09-16 05:00:54
What many of the commenters here fail to realize is they are using today's standards to make assumptions about the future. Of course the screen/LCD technology will be far more advance than today's. Of course battery life will be dramatically better in the future. Of course the phone/DAP devices will be considerably cheaper in the future. This is not a bash on Zune, rather an objective hypothesis on where the market is headed. You're telling be that if Microsoft introduced a 32Gb Zune phone for $199 with zune pass in the service package, you wouldn't consider it?
Step outside your boxes people!
Guest User   | 67.190.136.xxx | 2007-09-16 14:03:00
[quote=Guest User]six reasons why shift will not occur

mp3 and phone sharing the same battery... never a good idea

small a** movie screen (one sole advantage zune currently has on ipod)

small hd space, there are people who want more than a few gigs on their mp3/movie devise.

your mp3 player will now be married to your wireless provider, since we know not every mp3 phone will be offered by every carriar

#4 ??music phones will be less expensive than stand-alone music players?? --- by that did you mean my lg phone that plays music from a micro sd, or the new iPhone! if microsoft came out with an music phone, do you really think its going to be cheaper? and if it will be cheaper, dont we already have those? just visit your verizon /tmobile store, they already exist. i dont think anyone needs microsoft to enter the phone industry. if they will enter the compete with iphone industry, then number 4 is a pretty stupid argument IMO

okay i cant come up with a 6th, whatever,...
BEN     | 74.184.31.xxx | 2007-09-16 18:00:48
Unlike most people, I'd rather not have a music phone....Maybe in ten years, when they're awesome, I'd get one, but right now they're not, so nah.
Guest User   | 70.162.220.xxx | 2007-09-16 21:53:25
I would rather have my phone just have good battery life and great reception. I have a Samsung A900 and I just use it to make calls. I don't see the point of having a bunch of mediocre features on phone such as internet access, camera Mp3 player and worst of all games.
SLimer   | 70.124.13.xxx | 2007-09-16 22:37:30
[smiley=laugh]
Of course solving the battery and screen size plus memory is the only thing missing. But if you can stream your content at home at super fast speeds then ok. Say you have your 360/ps3 hooked up to a 500gb hd the stream vids and what not over to your zune phone or psp phone.
George   | 24.176.165.xxx | 2007-09-16 23:01:20
I think SLimer has it about right. What the Zune COULD BE is a portable server for mp3 & wifi enabled cellphones: sync you and your friends cellphone to the zune when you need new/different music. This assumes that M$ would issue firmware that would open up the Zune in the first place. BTW that is my main problem with the Zune right now. M$ really needs to open that functionality up RIGHT NOW.

My $0.02.

George
Guest User   | 75.80.207.xxx | 2007-09-17 08:26:12
Maybe mobil phones will kill pmps, but before I see that happening they have to make strides in battery life. I would carry two devices if that meant I could listen to music all day and still call and txt without having to worry about my battery life.
Guest User   | 74.254.162.xxx | 2007-09-17 18:01:03
Lets look at this logically. Of course 10 years from now battery, LCD, and storage tech will be vastly improved. Todays Zune probably will be dead and gone, but that doesn't mean that there won't be A Zune. Hell, how many people use the same tech gear that they had 10 years ago, like that Pentium computer with a CD-ROM, 128 megs of RAM, and a 500 meg hard drive running windows 3.1; yeah that would be a sweet system now-a-days.[smiley=laugh]
Guest User   | 75.53.34.xxx | 2007-09-17 22:00:57
[quote=Guest User]six reasons why shift will not occur

mp3 and phone sharing the same battery... never a good idea

small a** movie screen (one sole advantage zune currently has on ipod)

small hd space, there are people who want more than a few gigs on their mp3/movie devise.

your mp3 player will now be married to your wireless provider, since we know not every mp3 phone will be offered by every carriar

#4 ??music phones will be less expensive than stand-alone music players?? --- by that did you mean my lg phone that plays music from a micro sd, or the new iPhone! if microsoft came out with an music phone, do you really think its going to be cheaper? and if it will be cheaper, dont we already have those? just visit your verizon /tmobile store, they already exist. i dont think anyone needs microsoft to enter the phone industry. if they will enter the compete with iphone industry, then number 4 is a pretty stupid argument IMO

okay i cant come up with a 6th, whatever,...
Guest User   | 170.215.248.xxx | 2007-09-18 14:50:59
this stupid 10 year predictions article.

who cant make logical predictions for a 10 year period, its basically just saying that technology will advance.

but what happened here is that the zuneboard turned this article into something that is speculating about zune 2.0 possibly being a phone.

well, its really too bad there no real news coming out of the zune camp that the last three front page posts are pretty rediculous.
EqualStatus   | 63.193.188.xxx | 2007-09-18 19:06:37
This guy is an idiot....

phones are just a hassle...

plus mp3's have way more disk space.

phones are whack.
SteveBallmer     | 68.209.64.xxx | 2007-09-20 23:28:11
Are you kidding? The Zune has only begun to fight!
http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com
Guest User   | 24.151.130.xxx | 2007-09-28 16:24:05
I want my music collection separate from any wireless service. Solid state will take over the spinning HD but I believe there will definitely be a market for a device that is solely used for audio, portable and independent of a phone service.
ea     | 68.39.118.xxx | 2007-09-28 17:29:45
the only way i would buy a music phone is if it had 40 hours 160 gb and excellent sound Quality[smiley=wink]
Guest User   | 65.92.93.xxx | 2007-09-30 16:53:36
Lets make a mp3 sex toy that would sell.
xzodx   | 68.121.240.xxx | 2007-10-01 05:35:10
If Microsoft were smart they would use there savy technical know how and allow current users to upgrade to the new version and include a pre-video conversion programmed which uses windows media. Make life simple for the clients and they will never want to give it away
asdasd   | 72.185.205.xxx | 2008-06-05 18:05:30
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