What the Heck is up With Zune?

January 26, 2009 by ACE 

Welp, no doubt the news in Zuneland (pronounced “zoon-lund”) hasn’t been great as of late. With the economy tanking and news that Zune device sales have plummeted, all signs lead to a questionable future for Zune. And with the departure of Zune’s own ZuneInsider (Cesar, you will be sorely missed), people are already believing and bracing for the worst, but allow me to shed some light on this bleakness, explain what went wrong (in my opinion), and speculate on where Zune’s headed next, which you may be glad to know is not into oblivion, just not how you may want or expect it.

What Happened?

When you step into the ring with heavy weights, you’d better be able to beat them at their game, or bring something that is game-changing. Zune, for all its tout as being an iPod killer, has simply (and discouragingly) not been that. Why? Let’s face it. Apple had this market cornered, and if Microsoft was going to put a dent into it, it needed to play Apple’s game and beat them at it to make any progress in device sales (which again tanked compared to the previous year). So what does that mean? Apple has had the distinction, whether you like it or not, of always bringing new models of iPods to market almost every year. This creates that lust for the “latest and greatest”; that instant demand that sends the masses out with credit cards in hand, ready to buy. Zune, in comparison did not refresh its device models this past year, and there’s why the sales were flat. Zune simply didn’t play their hand right.

Apple also prides itself on having the thinnest, funnest (yes, they actually use that exact term), sleekest, and sexiest products out there, and people know this and believe it. This is also where Zune really lacked in comparison. I’ve heard the Zune is a tank – no one can argue that – it’s really durably made, but sexy? Lustful? The design of the Zune device does leave one peering down the aisle and seeing what the iPods look like. Why?

The PDMP market (which stands for Personal Digital Music Player) is nothing BUT personal. The player you use, whether you like it or not, says something about you. It defines you, and testifies for you on your behalf in this consumerist’s age, and while I bought Zune simply because it wasn’t an iPod, many more bought an iPod for that exact same reason. Zune’s device sales have plummeted because there were no new Zunes last year, and Apple refreshed its entire line – of course people are going to opt for the newest thang.

This past October, with Zune 3.0 coming out, it was more about the service. People were trying down-play the need for hardware and say it’s the service that was going to push Zune. But I respectfully (and still) disagreed. Zune has always been perceived as a hardware competitor to iPod. Trying to change it up and emphasize services seemed going backwards, not forwards. And even if it were true that the service was what Zune was going to be all about, Zune already wasn’t bringing anything new, and was never leading in the “discovery” experience anyhow; not with the huge success of services such as Pandora, Slacker, and LastFM, again Zune appeared to be a reiteration and not a game changer.

Microsoft woulda, coulda, shoulda brought something game-changing instead, which I believe they initially tried to do with the larger screen and wi-fi capability, but it was too little too late. Zune was completely blindsided by the likes of the iPod Touch and other services such as Pandora and Slacker, which have revolutionized the game and left Microsoft clamoring.

So What’s Next?

Zune (In my honest opinion) is not going away. Not for now anyway. There are a couple roads Microsoft can take here, some of which you may like, and some you may not.

The first would be to slow down, regroup, and rethink things through. The device market is a finicky one and they lust after that top new device (even in a recession people are still buying gadgets), so a major and complete redesign of the Zune device would be in order. But this is if Microsoft is willing to put the R&D into something that will truly be at the level (or more) of the iPod Touch. It’s a tall order, so will we ever see a touch screen Zune? Well we may, but I’m thinking it may not be in the way we imagine it. Zune could be on a touch screen cell phone, but manufactured by HTC – which brings me to the next alternative.

The second road would be that Zune would pull out of the hardware manufacturing completely, and simply offer its services across other MS platforms such as Xbox and Windows Mobile. There’s been speculation about this recently, however, even with promises of not stopping hardware – it’s hard to tell just how much MS is committed to going the long-haul against Apple. We may see Zune diminished to compete just against Pandora and comparable services.

What’s my take? I think it will be a mixture of both. I think we’ll see at least one more Zune device, but we’ll also see Zune start its migration over to other platforms. Eventually, the cell phone will replace the stand alone PDMP so this is a wise move. But for now, I’m looking forward to one last hoorah with a new Zune model, but hey Microsoft, if you want to avoid sales numbers like we just saw last quarter, you need to beat Apple at their game (at least in the minds of us consumers out here).

Hope that puts to rest some fears out there. I, for one, was pretty down over the past month or so with all the crap happening with Zune, but I think things will get better. Things will turn around and Zune will gain its luster one way or another. So here’s to a brighter future, and one we can look forward to with hope and optimism…. Let’s hope…

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We need a touch screen zune already
Old 01-26-2009, 10:20 AM Zombii Matt is online now  
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yeah, we do need a touchscreen zune.
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My friend has been waiting out for one, but has caved and bought the Ipod touch, because its around. I think MS are really scratching their heads on what to make to BEAT, not level, the Ipod. I cant cant to see what they bring out.
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I bought a zune because it's durable. Also, i don't like the click wheel.

If ipod touch had a 32gb ipod touch for sale for $150 (the same price that i bought my zune), i would definetly get a ipod touch.
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This article states that the Zune must beat Ipod at it's own game. Now, it never mentioned what it must do to win, however I have a few points that I believe may allow the Zune to achieve victory:

1. Make song trading, free, and so you can listen to the traded song indefinetley.

2. Create the ability to trade videos.

3. Give the Zune support to Itunes, WMP, etc.

4. Make the Zune touch screen, and with the ability to stream any video, free.

5. Finally, make it Xbox compatible, perhaps to such an extent that I can play some Xbox Arcade games on it.

These are my few cents, however, I am not certain whether even these methods will save the Zune.
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well i hope that the next zune will make people stare at it enough to buy it ....and plus Microsoft has alot of thinking to do and but thinking i mean what would be better than a touch screen device ? and how can we keep it affordable with lot of GB.
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well i hope that the next zune will make people stare at it enough to buy it ....and plus Microsoft has alot of thinking to do and but thinking i mean what would be better than a touch screen device ? and how can we keep it affordable with lot of GB.
It is my belief that we, the people, the mere mortals that use this device, should present Microsoft with a list of fundamental changes to the Zune, and it's Zune marketing strategies, changes that will benifit the customer. I understand enough in economics and in business to know that whatever a customer may present, may not be benificial to the company, but Microsoft should nonetheless oblige, for it will save them there device. This list should be presented here, on these boards and on many others, and gather petitions, then we present it to Microsoft.
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This article states that the Zune must beat Ipod at it's own game. Now, it never mentioned what it must do to win, however I have a few points that I believe may allow the Zune to achieve victory:

1. Make song trading, free, and so you can listen to the traded song indefinetley.

2. Create the ability to trade videos.

3. Give the Zune support to Itunes, WMP, etc.

4. Make the Zune touch screen, and with the ability to stream any video, free.

5. Finally, make it Xbox compatible, perhaps to such an extent that I can play some Xbox Arcade games on it.

These are my few cents, however, I am not certain whether even these methods will save the Zune.
agreed 100%..they need to keep thinking of the things apple hasnt..like sending songs and vids etc. I also think the device marketplace should have the same features as the zune software like: have podcasts and videos able to download..also the picks and mixview on the device would be amazing.
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Possible but difficult to do:

- Integrate Netflix Instant Watch
This could be done through the built-in wi-fi or at the very least sync it like Zune Pass. I don't care if I have to pay $5 on top of the Zune Pass or have a separate account for videos, this would sell.

- Touch
This next coming wave of PMP devices will all be about touch. Apple, Archos, and I believe Creative have them. Bang it out, MS!

- Start migration to solid state only
Hard drives are bulky and fragile, not to mention they consume a good deal more of battery than flash media. Mostly because they are fragile.

- Allow for a separate partition for hard drive-based actions.
The iPod has had this for years, get with the times.

- Integration with XBOX 360
MS is trying so hard to merge the living room with the computer, too bad it forgot about the most used device to play back music...

- Zune Software
iTunes is bloated as hell for the PC. Why are you following in Apple's footsteps? The stupid program practically brings my PC to a halt when I load it (Core 2 Duo, 2GB, 2.4GHz, 320GB HD)
Allow for docking, like WMP or iTunes. I hate having to bring it up everytime I have to pause a song or make minor actions to it.
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I agree with MercifulBoss, not only will microsoft have to come up with a touch screen, but song trding for free would be a huge deal that i personally think would help the zune stay alive...
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Zune Touch? But I bought a Zune for the fact that it's not an iPod...
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1. Make song trading, free, and so you can listen to the traded song indefinetley.
Not possible. If you had any idea how licensing works with music, you couldn't possibly expect Zune to ever do this.

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2. Create the ability to trade videos.
I don't see how this would help Zune's endeavors.

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3. Give the Zune support to Itunes, WMP, etc.
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4. Make the Zune touch screen, and with the ability to stream any video, free.
Stream? Stream to what? I agree on the Zune tough though...

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5. Finally, make it Xbox compatible, perhaps to such an extent that I can play some Xbox Arcade games on it.
This is one valid point...
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You could make it so you can send songs free if the other Zune is connected to a paying Zune Subscription.
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all i think is that microsoft needs to make better designs and better features >.> touch screen zune don't seem necessary unless they want to copy off apple's ipod touch line..
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1. That was beautifully written ace
2. I agree with MercifulBoss- A petition that would convince MS that the Zune has the full potential to be great, including ideas that we have that could make it better would help alot.
3. Whoever that was that said Netflix on the Devices and/or on the software, thats a great idea. Apple doesn't sell or rent videos.. YET. If MS can beat them to that, it'll be one step up the ladder.
4. I think many of us would like to see Xbox integration. Saw that a few times through this thread and it's a great idea. If they can appeal to that vast gaming crowd even more, then go for it! Why not?
That's all I got right now..
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The ultimate insider, and I say the Zune is safe!
Old 01-26-2009, 04:36 PM Steve Ballmer is offline  
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I totally see Zune, being integrated into Windows Mobile, if there is a future I think it will be there, Ballmer already said the Portable Personal Media Player market is drying up. They have the mobile buisness with a lot of customers under assault from RIM and Apple (soone Palm, if the Pre pans out), They need to improve windows mobile with a beter store, and media player UI.
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If we had a touch screen zune i dont think many more people will by it. people rather get a stupid nano which suks than a rockin zune. but me as a zune fan would like a touchscreen zune
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- A touch screen won't solve it [they are too late just like they were with the Zune 30, the iPod Touch/iPhone has dominated that market]
- A redesign might bring in a few more users, but its not going to get them very much out of the hole.
- Capacity bumps over the competitors would help only to gain the most fanatical PMP users that need as much storage space as possible.

If they truly want to get some market share and boost sales THEY HAVE TO DO something out of the ordinary. More importantly it has to appeal to the mass audience. This can be either through changing current products or bringing a new one to the table. The whole keeping up with the competition is not working for them.

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