[SOLVED] Zunecentive questions

jackluo923 · 03-16-2008, 10:34 AM

I gave my friend $zb75 to by a zune 30 silicone case to a friend as a reward to make him post on Zuneboards. I broke the rules because I didn't ask permission from the administrator.

"As well, to prevent people from making multiple accounts to earn more ZuneBux we will require that all donations of greater than 10 $zB must have approval from an administrator or global moderator. We will be watching the logs for any unapproved transactions. Failure to abide by these rules will result in an infraction and a fine of no less than 10 $zB plus any $zB gained from the offense. Punishments for not complying with these rules will increase with repeated offenses." -Nurta

When I looked through the "new Regulation thread" i thought giving more than $zb10 was a automatic process which administrator had to "approve" before the money was transfered to another person. Anyhow, i deserved to be infracted and $zb taken away.

However, though this giving process, the person who I gave the $zb to got banned because of this. I did not ask my friend to make another acount so i could con another free zunecentive account. He was banned right after he bought the zunecentive item with the $zb i gave him.

So do you think my friend should be banned because of my own error?

wyckedcombo17 · 03-16-2008, 10:37 AM

at least warned and checked the computers signatures. then theyd know its 2 dif people

dustin_ds3000 · 03-16-2008, 10:42 AM

only if the multiple accounts have the same ip address is what i think

Gregory · 03-16-2008, 11:12 AM

You need to pm LPX about your friend.

What made you think the approval process was automatic?

jackluo923 · 03-16-2008, 11:39 AM

I thought the approval process was automatic because Nurta said " As well, to prevent people from making multiple accounts to earn more ZuneBux we will require that all donations of greater than 10 $zB must have approval from an administrator or global moderator. We will be watching the logs for any unapproved transactions.".

I thought the $zb donation is like this

1) Donate
2) Admin/global mod approve by looking at the unapproved transactions to see if it's genuine
3) Then the receiver get their donatation

When i was donating, I saw a "reason" box, so I put explained the situation my intention. I thought this process is the "approval" thing and I was waiting for the admin to approve. I didn't know I had to PM an administrator for approval.

carnealse · 03-16-2008, 11:44 AM

I never believe that another should be punished for your mistake, especially if it is unintentional.

charmed61 · 03-16-2008, 12:00 PM

yea that's wrong. your friend banned for your mistakes. at least give them a warning or something instead of just banning him for no reason.

**PoN** · 03-16-2008, 12:42 PM

I believe you should get some kind penalty. And if its was the same ip.. BAN BAN BAN

Cloud Strife · 03-16-2008, 05:36 PM

You should thoroughly read the rules before doing things as such, ZuneBoards does have to protect against actions like that if you didn't get permission... so I support the "Yes" vote, but no offense to you or your friend

Vettexl

Jon · 03-16-2008, 06:35 PM

Yes, this is the only way people will learn.

runtohell121 · 03-16-2008, 06:38 PM

on getting a penalty at least.. or a infraction/warning.... its a way to learn..

jackluo923 · 03-16-2008, 08:19 PM

What does my friend learn from getting banned? Not to accept any $zb from me?

I'm the one who should be getting infracted, but I didn't.

My friend should get banned because he took my gifted $zb and bought something.
How would he know that his money were illegally obtained?

jackluo923 · 03-16-2008, 08:23 PM

The poll is for whether my friend should be banned because i illegally gave him $zb.

What do you mean the same IP?

The internet service provider uses dynamic ip thus the ip changes every time the modem renews its address or the computer restarts.

Well... I can assure that my friend I are two different person. He has probably been on zuneboards on my computer for one or two times, but majority of other times, went on zuneboards using his own computer with different IP.

Reason for editing: The edit button disappeared when i tried to add this to the above post. But now the edit button reappeared after i refreshed the page.

lpxxfaintxx · 03-16-2008, 08:24 PM

Your friend was unbanned yesterday...

jackluo923 · 03-16-2008, 08:26 PM

Thanks.

MUfan1313 · 03-17-2008, 04:44 PM

yea i thinks he should of been unbanned nice call lpx

View Poll Results: Should one be banned because of another person's error of judgement?
Yes	6	46.15%
No	7	53.85%
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03-16-2008, 10:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
jackluo923 Senior Zuner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver BC Posts: 1,275 Reputation: 122 $zB: 759 Donate	[SOLVED] Zunecentive questions I gave my friend $zb75 to by a zune 30 silicone case to a friend as a reward to make him post on Zuneboards. I broke the rules because I didn't ask permission from the administrator. "As well, to prevent people from making multiple accounts to earn more ZuneBux we will require that all donations of greater than 10 $zB must have approval from an administrator or global moderator. We will be watching the logs for any unapproved transactions. Failure to abide by these rules will result in an infraction and a fine of no less than 10 $zB plus any $zB gained from the offense. Punishments for not complying with these rules will increase with repeated offenses." -Nurta When I looked through the "new Regulation thread" i thought giving more than $zb10 was a automatic process which administrator had to "approve" before the money was transfered to another person. Anyhow, i deserved to be infracted and $zb taken away. However, though this giving process, the person who I gave the $zb to got banned because of this. I did not ask my friend to make another acount so i could con another free zunecentive account. He was banned right after he bought the zunecentive item with the $zb i gave him. So do you think my friend should be banned because of my own error?

03-16-2008, 10:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
wyckedcombo17 An army of many Experienced Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: in a box Posts: 808 Reputation: 51 $zB: 550 Donate	at least warned and checked the computers signatures. then theyd know its 2 dif people __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "When the power of love finally overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." - Hendrix (sig by Tobososlow) trouble tagging music? get Picard Tagger To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , it works great!

03-16-2008, 10:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
dustin_ds3000 Experienced Zuner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: AR Posts: 217 Reputation: 19 $zB: 125 Donate	only if the multiple accounts have the same ip address is what i think __________________ computer specs: AMD 2800+ XP-M,Zalman-CNPS7000B-Cu LED,Nvidia GeForce 6800 gt,1 gig of pc2100 Crucial,1 300 gig hdd for windows vista and 1 300 gig hdd for music and downloads,hp dvd630 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-16-2008, 11:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
Gregory Support Team Moderator Ultimate Zuner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: What a stalker! Posts: 6,433 Reputation: 257 $zB: 3740 Donate	You need to pm LPX about your friend. What made you think the approval process was automatic? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Do you live outside of the US, have Paypal, and want the Zune Pass? If so PM or visit my To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. .

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03-16-2008, 11:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
jackluo923 Senior Zuner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver BC Posts: 1,275 Reputation: 122 $zB: 759 Donate	I thought the approval process was automatic because Nurta said " As well, to prevent people from making multiple accounts to earn more ZuneBux we will require that all donations of greater than 10 $zB must have approval from an administrator or global moderator. We will be watching the logs for any unapproved transactions.". I thought the $zb donation is like this 1) Donate 2) Admin/global mod approve by looking at the unapproved transactions to see if it's genuine 3) Then the receiver get their donatation When i was donating, I saw a "reason" box, so I put explained the situation my intention. I thought this process is the "approval" thing and I was waiting for the admin to approve. I didn't know I had to PM an administrator for approval.

03-16-2008, 11:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
carnealse Jr. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Va Beach Posts: 474 Reputation: 31 $zB: 359 Donate	I never believe that another should be punished for your mistake, especially if it is unintentional. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-16-2008, 12:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
charmed61 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The Gold Rush State! Posts: 638 Reputation: 4 $zB: 333 Donate	yea that's wrong. your friend banned for your mistakes. at least give them a warning or something instead of just banning him for no reason.

03-16-2008, 12:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
PoN Panda-monium! Premium Member Super Zuner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bedford Michigan Posts: 1,779 Reputation: 79 $zB: 662 Donate	I believe you should get some kind penalty. And if its was the same ip.. BAN BAN BAN __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-16-2008, 05:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cloud Strife I eat toast n00bs Support Team GFX Crew Section Staff Elite Zuner Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,020 Reputation: 249 $zB: 1790 Donate	You should thoroughly read the rules before doing things as such, ZuneBoards does have to protect against actions like that if you didn't get permission... so I support the "Yes" vote, but no offense to you or your friend Vettexl __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-16-2008, 08:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
jackluo923 Senior Zuner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver BC Posts: 1,275 Reputation: 122 $zB: 759 Donate	What does my friend learn from getting banned? Not to accept any $zb from me? I'm the one who should be getting infracted, but I didn't. My friend should get banned because he took my gifted $zb and bought something. How would he know that his money were illegally obtained?

03-16-2008, 08:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
jackluo923 Senior Zuner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver BC Posts: 1,275 Reputation: 122 $zB: 759 Donate	The poll is for whether my friend should be banned because i illegally gave him $zb. What do you mean the same IP? The internet service provider uses dynamic ip thus the ip changes every time the modem renews its address or the computer restarts. Well... I can assure that my friend I are two different person. He has probably been on zuneboards on my computer for one or two times, but majority of other times, went on zuneboards using his own computer with different IP. Reason for editing: The edit button disappeared when i tried to add this to the above post. But now the edit button reappeared after i refreshed the page.

03-16-2008, 08:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
lpxxfaintxx Administrator Ultimate Zuner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 5,819 Reputation: 204 $zB: 2042 Donate	Your friend was unbanned yesterday... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-16-2008, 08:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
jackluo923 Senior Zuner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver BC Posts: 1,275 Reputation: 122 $zB: 759 Donate	Thanks.

03-17-2008, 04:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
MUfan1313 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 513 Reputation: 15 $zB: 329 Donate	yea i thinks he should of been unbanned nice call lpx

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