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Old 02-02-2008, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"According to Zune user Joel Geddis, way back in 2006 his first gen player spontaneously reset and blasted an ear-shattering noise through the earbuds, resulting in permanent "fluid leakage from [his] ear canal, impaired hearing, and incessant ringing and discomfort." Sound like the stuff of a lawsuit? That'd be correct. Like many others, Joel is beating the war drum in an attempt to raise some awareness of his pending product liability and personal injury suit against Toshiba (who made the first Zune's hardware) and Microsoft. See, this is why we warn people to put in ear-plugs before putting on their headphones -- otherwise you might damage your hearing." via Engadget

I'd say he were crazy if I hadn't experienced a similar situation when I received my Zune 80. Whenever the device is reset it automatically resets the volume at 8 or 9. That's loud when I consider the fact that I only go over "1" when I'm watching some videos and with some songs that are unusually low. It happened the day after Christmas when the device froze up after shuffling. After a reset I went to shuffle again I thought my head was going to explode. Luckily I was using my previous iPod headphones because the Zune earphones weren't comfortable. I wonder why the default volume is so high with a device that comes with in-ear earphones. Makes no sense to me.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know whose side to be on here.. LOL Then again, I'm not thinking much right now.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Ouch man.
It's the most legitimate loss of hearing lawsuit I've heard of in a while. Most of them have been against Apple, but when you reset an iPod the volume is always down low. Plus, they give you a tool to limit volume output. MS really needs to fix this issue imo.
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Wait, was this a 30 or an 80? My thirty's never done anything to hurt me. We're good friends to this day :-)




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Ouch, here comes that volume limit we were talking about before.



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Same here, I've never had that happen to me before. Maybe its because I'm used to my sister always screaming in my ear.




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Same here, I've never had that happen to me before. Maybe its because I'm used to my sister always screaming in my ear.
He was using a Zune 30. I'm using a Zune 80, though.
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well there was a warning on the earphones before you opened them in 30 gig so there was technically warning so i hope ms wins
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well there was a warning on the earphones before you opened them in 30 gig so there was technically warning so i hope ms wins
I think you're missing the main point. Of course earphone can damage your ears, but the point he is trying to make is that the default volume shouldn't be that high. It should either be low or at the same point as it was before you reset it. Resetting it shouldn't cause the volume to spike up and blow your ears out . I question how many times he made the mistake, though, since leakage is pretty serious. Even still, I agree with the main point.
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geeze you hardly go over one?

I always keep mine at 11....
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yea i keep mine at 13, 7 seems low enuff to me
i had a similar thing like that
i was walking home the the stock headphones next thing u kno, one blows out and something hurts my ear
but my ears are still ok






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I think you're missing the main point. Of course earphone can damage your ears, but the point he is trying to make is that the default volume shouldn't be that high. It should either be low or at the same point as it was before you reset it. Resetting it shouldn't cause the volume to spike up and blow your ears out . I question how many times he made the mistake, though, since leakage is pretty serious. Even still, I agree with the main point.
well im pretty sure someone (with common sense) would know when it was too loud or too soft..

and what do u mean leakage?
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well im pretty sure someone (with common sense) would know when it was too loud or too soft..

and what do u mean leakage?
I agree. But when I reset my Zune for the first time there was no way to know that volume would be so loud until a song started playing. I listen to just about all of my music on 1 whether I'm on the bus, at school, wherever. 8 or 9 is incredibly loud. Now I know, but I jumped out of my skin when it happened. Ear leakage: discharge or bleeding from the ears. It's not always blood, though.
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sucks for that person, i always have my zune volume set at 3 or 4 the highest...
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mine is at 10 usually with inear headphone(never go in all the way with my wierd ear shape :p), 20 on the bus cause the driver blasts music



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mine is at 10 usually with inear headphone(never go in all the way with my wierd ear shape :p), 20 on the bus cause the driver blasts music
My God. You're poor ears !
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mine is at 10 usually with inear headphone(never go in all the way with my wierd ear shape :p), 20 on the bus cause the driver blasts music
lol damn, thats loud....i usually have it to 10-12 when im watching a movie on my zune....when i listen to a live album, i have it to 4 or 5, and when im on the bus, its 6....when its really loud, i have it to 8....but since i got new v1 Zune earphones that Microsoft sent me, i have it to 3...

also, 20?!!! lol that would really damage my hearing!
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I think the default volume is not that loud, I think is balanced.
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Mine is usually at 6-13., just check the volume before you play something.






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