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Old 06-05-2009, 11:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Concerning Shanghai and Beijing, the quality of life in those cities is quite misleading as to the life of the average Chinese citizen. The government there has divided the populace into a 2 caste society - those permitted to live in the urban areas, and those relegated to farm country. Everyone wants to get into the cities, but only the select few have this option. Since the vast majority of the Chinese population is in the rural areas, the ordinary person isn't experiencing any of the benefits you describe.

Regarding the side note, you're exactly right - accented Latin and Cyrillic characters have long worked perfectly on the Zune, and those can only be represented through Unicode.

well, doesn't matter to me who buys it, i just want it to sell so MS can continue with their Zunes.

hey, i live in a rural area outside of Fort McMurray, one of the richest cities of North America. of course, i dont farm. ok nvm.

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Old 06-06-2009, 07:36 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Not everyone is poor in China. That was rude and racist, dunce.

On another note, this is sweet! Spanish characters here I COME!!!!
Not only was it rude and racist, it was also pretty dumb. There are plenty of zune users just in the USA alone who need/want unicode support for their song genre's of choice.
Yikes...
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:04 AM   #23 (permalink)
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This has already been announced in the Zune Insider podcast....
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This has already been announced in the Zune Insider podcast....
And your point is...
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:03 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Not only was it rude and racist, it was also pretty dumb. There are plenty of zune users just in the USA alone who need/want unicode support for their song genre's of choice.
Yikes...

racist? READ. i didn't say they where poor because they where stupid or jobless ir anything. or because theyre chinese. i said allot of them are poor because theyr in a COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT. do you know what that means! and i can garantee you the rich people immigrated from another country.

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I hope this is true. I dont understand why they would leave it out otherwise.

Maybe getting it ready for the Internatianol release?





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Old 06-06-2009, 12:01 PM   #27 (permalink)
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didn't ms say that the zunehd will only be sold in the us? unicode support seems like its targeting such a small audience that its not worth the hassle

not that i'm against the older zunes having unicode support now that they are gonna be sold outside of the us



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What?

Older ones are going to be international but ZuneHD wont?
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Old 06-06-2009, 12:10 PM   #29 (permalink)
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didn't ms say that the zunehd will only be sold in the us? unicode support seems like its targeting such a small audience that its not worth the hassle

not that i'm against the older zunes having unicode support now that they are gonna be sold outside of the us
It's not really a "hassle" to add unicode support, like others already stated, Zune already supports unicode.




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Old 06-06-2009, 01:06 PM   #30 (permalink)
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exactly. the system supported unicode from day one of Zune 30's release. All MS had to do was include any one of it's many sets of asian character font files before compiling and we would have asian characters on the zune. why microsoft never bothered i guess we'll never know. They did not have to recode anything now were there any hardware limitations (memory, BIOS, resolution, etc.) Most MP3 manufacturers use the excuse of screen resolution as a cop-out but MS never had that excuse. But i guess late is better than never.



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This has already been announced in the Zune Insider podcast....
My point is that it isn't a highly likely rumour anymore but it has been confirmed by zune officials.
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if this is true... wel i wont use it, but its still pretty kool.

and where do you find the zune insider podcast. (besides inside the podcast section in the marketplace) i mean what categories does it fall under. it's letting me download podcasts so i mine as well get that.




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finally chinese font support? xD
all my songs are in chinese >.< yayyyy
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finally chinese font support? xD
all my songs are in chinese >.< yayyyy

umm, chinese songs? anyways, what exactly does it do, is it just a language setting or something?




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umm, chinese songs? anyways, what exactly does it do, is it just a language setting or something?
Yes, some people are smarter than you and know more than one language. It adds new characters to the zune's library. As an example, think of the letter "A" as a character. This update just adds support of foreign characters that are used in foreign writing.
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Yes, some people are smarter than you and know more than one language. It adds new characters to the zune's library. As an example, think of the letter "A" as a character. This update just adds support of foreign characters that are used in foreign writing.


oooh, someones a little agry

calm down. anyways so it's like exactly the same as just changing a language setting.....

anyways who needs a new language, english is like the most popular language. and its allot easier to understand.




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All I can say is... finally!! lol. I have a lot of albums from Asian artists and it was a bit tedious to revert all the titles and such back into western characters. Why have them that way in the first place? It was a nice way to picking up and memorizing kanji

Yeah it's not like it's targeting a large audience, but if the support was available from the get-go, why not have it? Now let's hope the older gens won't be left out for this...

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anyways who needs a new language, english is like the most popular language. and its allot easier to understand.
I dunno, some of us who wants to be able to speak to other people who don't speak English? It's also pretty handy at certain jobs, knowing other languages..

And English can be really confusing and frustrating to non-English speaking speakers, with all the conflicting rules and endless exceptions. It just seems easier when you've grown up with it, learned it as a child, and/or just good at picking up languages.



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I dunno, some of us who wants to be able to speak to other people who don't speak English? It's also pretty handy at certain jobs, knowing other languages..

And English can be really confusing and frustrating to non-English speaking speakers, with all the conflicting rules and endless exceptions. It just seems easier when you've grown up with it, learned it as a child, and/or just good at picking up languages.
true. i didnt actually know this many people listened to music with asian characters? hmm. i dont understand how english can be frustrating, some languages make clicking noises and other odd things. and in french theres male and female.... well, pretty much everything. (not to mention everything starts with le, or ille, or elle, or something.) and everything they say is backwards. like instead of a yellow crayon, its like crayon - yellow. i hate that language. and im french too, so you cant say im racist this time.




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and where do you find the zune insider podcast. (besides inside the podcast section in the marketplace) i mean what categories does it fall under. it's letting me download podcasts so i mine as well get that.
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true. i didnt actually know this many people listened to music with asian characters? hmm. i dont understand how english can be frustrating, some languages make clicking noises and other odd things. and in french theres male and female.... well, pretty much everything. (not to mention everything starts with le, or ille, or elle, or something.) and everything they say is backwards. like instead of a yellow crayon, its like crayon - yellow. i hate that language. and im french too, so you cant say im racist this time.
Well, I live in the Netherlands and i have to learn four languages at school. English, german, french and dutch...
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And English can be really confusing and frustrating to non-English speaking speakers, with all the conflicting rules and endless exceptions. It just seems easier when you've grown up with it, learned it as a child, and/or just good at picking up languages.
Is there some place that has proof of this claim? People keep saying that there are tons of conflicting rules and exceptions in English, but I know English better than anyone that I know, and there seems to be fairly few rules and exceptions compared to French, for instance.

I took French in high school, and there is no way French is easier to learn (for people that are new to French) than English. Having to learn 15+ forms of each verb, having to know what gender each noun is, and having to know where to place all of the words is not easier than learning English. English is pretty straightforward compared to that.

Back on topic... There really is no reason Microsoft could not put in full Unicode support at the start. I guess they figured no in the U.S. listens to foreign music and when the Zune was launched in Canada, that no one in Canada listens to foreign music.
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