Well, im another bprogrammer if anyone's interested...
But yea, VB is only good for some simple GUI's and simple tasks. It's comparable to Mac Automator Scripts in a more complicated way. It also feels like Java a bit from the way it handles classes. I would actually reccommend ASM for coding and Visual C++ for the GUI since you can use asm() function in C and C++. Plus those are high level (C++) enough to be effective, and low level (ASM) enough to have control over everything.
just a personal opinion...
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Well, im another bprogrammer if anyone's interested...
But yea, VB is only good for some simple GUI's and simple tasks. It's comparable to Mac Automator Scripts in a more complicated way. It also feels like Java a bit from the way it handles classes. I would actually reccommend ASM for coding and Visual C++ for the GUI since you can use asm() function in C and C++. Plus those are high level (C++) enough to be effective, and low level (ASM) enough to have control over everything.
just a personal opinion...
Yes, but I would not recommend starting with any C languages. I think Visual Basic would be a good place to start, and then you should move on to C, ASM, or python.
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And you know what? Macs are too hip. Oh, look at me! I do graphic design! I wear women's jeans and hang out in coffee shops! I'm a DJ! Well good for you. My computer is not a fashion statement. It's a computer.
what exactly does it mean when "visual" is placed before a language. it pretty much means it's more graphically oriented, right?
Yet visual basic seems radically different then BASIC.
"Visual" implies that the user can create GUIs using simple tools and he can see the program's interface take shape by his own hands, whereas just "BASIC" is a command-line based language, not suited for GUIs.
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Originally Posted by Adam Frucci
And you know what? Macs are too hip. Oh, look at me! I do graphic design! I wear women's jeans and hang out in coffee shops! I'm a DJ! Well good for you. My computer is not a fashion statement. It's a computer.
Visual Basic and Basic are very different. If I'm not mistaken, VB is OOP while Basic is not.
While yes, VB may be one of the weaker languages, it is very easy to use, and can get kind of powerful. If you need to learn a language, learn VB. It will teach you all the concepts of programming without having to worry about some of the very strict rules of other languages. Thus, you learn HOW to program before you learn how to "speak" program, if you understand what I mean. From learning Visual Basic, I was able to teach myself Visual C# in a afternoon, and easily learning JAVA whenever I feel like teaching myself.
If we are to use any of the Visual languages, it needs to be the same version, otherwise the code will be "upgraded" to the newest version, and become unreadable to the earlier versions. Note, this does not include going between Visual Studio 2005 and Visual Studio 2005 Express.
Also, you can put me down as a programmer. I can do GUI, but just note, I'm not known to be good at making things look all that great. However, if you give me the main idea, I know my way around Visual Studio quite well.
Also, we can program in the Express version, and then just send it to be compiled by someone with the full blown Studio, if needed.
Oh, I know VB and BASIC are different. I was just curious as to whether adding "Visual" before something implied it used the backbones of the language that follows. C++ and Visual C++ is another example. Marsh cleared things up.
BTW, as far as the MS SDKs go, there's not really a ton I can do with them. They require Visual Studio to be compiled, which I don't have. However, there are a good number of .cpp files in there that taught me a lot about how WMP works. Thus, I still may be able to work with them. And of course, there's all the usual nonsense of contacting MS to get DRM information. I don't think they'd give it to me...
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