Stripping Zune DRM

[marker580]

In case anyone was wondering, FairUse4WM and mirakagi work for stripping the DRM from songs purchased in the Zune Marketplace.

Yep, that's right, 3 million tracks just became DRM free, baby!

[Microcosm]

Neither have ever worked for me or I've never been able to find the correct files. do you have a link by any chance?

[god4gotmyname]

I was just wondering, since I will need to use a DRM stripper in a few days, how long does it take to strip the song of its DRM?
can it strip DRM from songs at like 10 songs/second?

[marker580]

Originally Posted by Microcosm

Neither have ever worked for me or I've never been able to find the correct files. do you have a link by any chance?

Contact ACE, he gave me the links. I didn't bookmark them, alas.

Originally Posted by god4gotmyname

I was just wondering, since I will need to use a DRM stripper in a few days, how long does it take to strip the song of its DRM?
can it strip DRM from songs at like 10 songs/second?

Not quite 10 songs/second, but it's extremely fast.

[AK_Hitman]

FYI, unless a brand spankin' new version of FairUse4WM came out in the past couple of days, it doesn't work with the new IBX version of DRM 11.0.6000.7000. If your running the Zune 2 software, you more than likely have this new IBX version.

[ben52192]

If you're willing to spend 20-25 bucks, you should get Tunebite. Works like a charm for me.

[Krebo]

Tunebite sucks.

And you can rollback your IBX fairly easily. Zune2 shouldn't update your blackbox if you were previously able to unDRM with FU4WM.

[nathanlawliet]

Tunebite is great. If this was still a warez forum, I'd upload the cracked version I have. Of course, the stripper seems easier, or at least less time consuming :P

[BIGMOFOBUBBA]

Sound Taxi works perfectly. 15 bucks a month for a subscription service matched with this is a match made in heaven. I use it all the time.

[leandermx]

Tunebite is great

[KCMD]

I agree that Tunebite is an excellent product--they deserve about $20 to $30 out of our pockets for their product. I tested this with Zune Pass DRM protected content, and using its virtual sound cards it was able to "play" the audio-out to audio-in virtual sound cards, therefore being pure digital and not digital-analog-digital, and because it supports up to 9 virtual sound cards simultaneously the software can play and record 9 tracks simultaneously, so 9 tracks played at 1x speed takes as much time as one of the tracks to convert to a non-DRM format (maybe 4 to 8 minutes an album). Although Tunebite allows for highspeed dubbing at 2x or 3x (therefore cutting the conversion time in half or to a third), and is again all virtual--therefore pure digital--I am personally sticking with 1x and just waiting longer, as I read somewhere that some people had problems with the resultant files having problems if your computer's CPU is overwhelmed with other tasks.

With thousands (millions?) of songs available via the Zune Marketplace Zune Pass service, I wonder if unlocking these files is considered legal in terms of "fair use" for personal in-home media enjoyment. According to Wikipedia ( search Google or Wikipedia for "Audio Home Recording Act" ) the definition of a "digital audio recording device" for making personal copies of broadcast or streamed music is in question. Similar arguments are being had by the RIAA as it concerns XM satellite radio devices being able to capture digital audio streams straight to MP3 files.


KCMD

[keenite]

Originally Posted by KCMD

I agree that Tunebite is an excellent product--they deserve about $20 to $30 out of our pockets for their product. I tested this with Zune Pass DRM protected content, and using its virtual sound cards it was able to "play" the audio-out to audio-in virtual sound cards, therefore being pure digital and not digital-analog-digital, and because it supports up to 9 virtual sound cards simultaneously the software can play and record 9 tracks simultaneously, so 9 tracks played at 1x speed takes as much time as one of the tracks to convert to a non-DRM format (maybe 4 to 8 minutes an album). Although Tunebite allows for highspeed dubbing at 2x or 3x (therefore cutting the conversion time in half or to a third), and is again all virtual--therefore pure digital--I am personally sticking with 1x and just waiting longer, as I read somewhere that some people had problems with the resultant files having problems if your computer's CPU is overwhelmed with other tasks.

With thousands (millions?) of songs available via the Zune Marketplace Zune Pass service, I wonder if unlocking these files is considered legal in terms of "fair use" for personal in-home media enjoyment. According to Wikipedia ( search Google or Wikipedia for "Audio Home Recording Act" ) the definition of a "digital audio recording device" for making personal copies of broadcast or streamed music is in question. Similar arguments are being had by the RIAA as it concerns XM satellite radio devices being able to capture digital audio streams straight to MP3 files.


KCMD

is the use of Tunebite completely legal??

[KCMD]

Originally Posted by keenite

is the use of Tunebite completely legal??

I am not clear as to the answer to this question. I suspect that all song "rental" services (e.g., Zune Pass) have legal disclaimers stating that it is a violation of the terms of service to record by any means the media, since a subscriber is borrowing the media and not buying it for permanent storage... and if it is legal to use the Tunebite virtual "play-and-record" method then the greatest personal risk that one faces in doing so is to be banned from using the song rental service.

In my limited research I received the impression that the various arguments before judges have not yet reached a conclusion about recording a playback of a song for personal use/storage: anyone have some spare time and a JD/law background specializing in intellectual property violation claims?

It's not clear to me if the "play-and-record" DRM unlocking technologies out there (Tunebite, NoteBurner, etc.) violate the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA) anti-circumvention provisions or not, because: (A) No, it's not attempting to digitally break encryption schemes to unlock media; however, (B) if you read Wikipedia's article on the DMCA then it would seem that "circumvention" can be interpretted to mean any sort of circumvention, whether breaking an encryption scheme or other methods.

One thing that is clear: DRM licenses for the rental of music do not want the consumer to copy that music for permanent storage, and so by perhaps some degree of good faith they've opened up the majority (not all) of available songs for a nominal $9 to $15 per month (depending on your service provider)... keeping in mind that you could pay that much for one album, yet you have access to almost every album to "borrow" and play on anywhere from { 3 computers } to { 3 computers and 3 portable media players } depending on your service provider's terms of service. This seems reasonable, if you would normally buy 12 albums a year that is--if you figure at $9 to $15 per month that's like buying one album (120+ songs) every year, and if you would either not normally make such purchases per year (or do not normlly seek to play such a diversity of songs per year) then the service is getting the upper hand and you might want to avoid it, and consider instead spending $0.80 to $1.00 per song on an as-needed basis.

Whether or not it's legal to use a "play-and-record" technique to unlock a purchased song (vice borrowed song) is an entirely separate issue, though I personally lean towards the belief that "fair use" personal copies are appropriate in this case, as you are buying and not borrowing the song(s).

KCMD

[Nurta]

Keep in mind that Zuneboards does not endorse stripping DRM.

[cowboy]

Originally Posted by Krebo

And you can rollback your IBX fairly easily.

Can you please elaborate on how one can "rollback" one's IBX please

[god4gotmyname]

Originally Posted by KCMD

I am not clear as to the answer to this question.

z00b

[guitarfreak846]

the thing is....most of the albums are unDRMed already....and can downloaded as mp3s....so these programs are becoming less valuable.

[airbrontosaurus]

I have a XP x64 and a fix so others can use it. But, I need 5 posts to post links for some reason... sorry

[god4gotmyname]

umm... i have a question about DRM stripping... so if you get tunebite and you make the drm stripping process go at an accelerated speed, then it really will have a chance of corrupting the songs so you can't play them, right? well is there a program or a way to make the chances of this happening go down by a lot?
thanks professional zuners

[Ryath]

I prefer the FreeMe2 + drmdbg method. It works like a charm. If anyone needs help on this, please send me a PM.