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Old 01-31-2009, 06:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ever notice how alot of coders and developers have faded away the past months? remember when the games were released? how there were games being imported like crazy? and now they have all left?

i have been surfing the board recently, and im very sad to see this. the noobs are taking over zuneboards, with "how do i get games on my zune"..

we need something that will stop people from asking this question over and over.

ive came down to a few ideas off the top of myhead.

1) have a feature that if someone posts the "how do i get games on my zune" they get banned for an hour or so and recieve a note saying "you have been banned for asking a question that has been answered many times, please take the time to use our search bar before asking common questions" or something along the line of that.

2) have a feature that when accounts with the status "zewbie" post something, it will search the body for relevent words like "how do i get this" "i am new to this", and if it finds that they are askin it, instead of it posting, it will show them a note with a link to the thread on how to put games on your zune.

if anyone agrees with me and thinks something needs to be done about all these noobs killing zuneboards, please post in this forum. and if you have any possible suggestions that might stop them, feel free to post your ideas.


Believe im joking about this? think this whole idea is stupid? think that the newbies arent that big of a deal? heres a couple of links to threads and posts where newbies have asked this, just to show how often its asked.

Threads:
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/gam...s-my-zune.html
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/gen...s-my-zune.html
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/zun...s-my-zune.html
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/gam...s-my-zune.html
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/gam...s-my-zune.html
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/gen...s-my-zune.html
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/gam...d-notepad.html
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/zun...-gen-zune.html

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http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/ope...tml#post360962
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post350994
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/ope...tml#post325203
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/ope...tml#post350922
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post350111
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/ope...tml#post347422
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/res...tml#post347024
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post346942
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post320258
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post345456
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/res...tml#post342432
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post334949
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post323880
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/gam...tml#post334562
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/res...tml#post332117
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/res...tml#post330415
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post327878
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/res...tml#post326309
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/ope...tml#post325824
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post324535
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post323880
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post322849
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post322609
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/ope...tml#post322203
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/ope...tml#post322011
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/ope...tml#post317923
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/res...tml#post322044
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post318589
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/ope...tml#post317923
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/res...tml#post316591

http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dow...tml#post322589 when i say the noobs are spamming, heres an great example

here is where i got all those posts from. i searched for posts made by bolt with "link" in the post, since he normally says "use the link in my sig"
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/sea...6&pp=25&page=1

anyone else still think its not a big deal?
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Old 01-31-2009, 09:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The ban idea is idiotic, people won't come back.
Also, we have plenty of new games.
You just need to make more.
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...or admins should just force-read a sticky pertaining to common game questions.
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The ban idea is idiotic, people won't come back.
Also, we have plenty of new games.
You just need to make more.
hey, its only for one hour.

and besides... if noobs get banned, and they stop coming... that means we wont need to answer the same question over and over.... right?!??
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Banning people for one hour is stupid.
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No no and no.
THing is, noobs are vital to zB believe it or not.Also, it is a sign we are a great and growing board which means this: more game developers =D. More artists to make stuff for us. Ever heard of the saying "The best way to learn a concept is to teach it"?
If we are nice and respect them then we get a great name for ourselves and not getting the oh-so-grand title of "Most Jack••• board on the net"
But just have a sticky people are forced to read during their first time.
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I could force-read the installing games topic, and actually did for a while. However, having 2 force-reads in one forum is a no-no. Noone would actually read them, notice how many people ignore the game request template?
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ever notice how alot of coders and developers have faded away the past months? remember when the games were released? how there were games being imported like crazy? and now they have all left?

i have been surfing the board recently, and im very sad to see this. the noobs are taking over zuneboards, with "how do i get games on my zune"..

we need something that will stop people from asking this question over and over.

ive came down to a few ideas off the top of my head.

1) have a feature that if someone posts the "how do i get games on my zune" they get banned for an hour or so and recieve a note saying "you have been banned for asking a question that has been answered many times, please take the time to use our search bar before asking common questions" or something along the line of that.

2) have a feature that when accounts with the status "zewbie" post something, it will search the body for relevent words like "how do i get this" "i am new to this", and if it finds that they are askin it, instead of it posting, it will show them a note with a link to the thread on how to put games on your zune.

if anyone agrees with me and thinks something needs to be done about all these noobs killing zuneboards, please post in this forum. and if you have any possible suggestions that might stop them, feel free to post your ideas.
Easy, no and no. We won't ban people for stupidity, now matter how frustrating it is, and 2 is more or less impossible, unless you plan to develop a custom plugin for vBulletin to do the job. This isn't going to happen. It's annoying, yes, but that's the beauty of copy-paste.
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unless you plan to develop a custom plugin for vBulletin to do the job..
actually that could be possible, like find a plugin that normally would search the box for any cuss words, and then warn them. but with it you edit it from cuss words, to noobish keywords (like "i am new to this" "how do i get this on my zune" and ect), and edit the warning to give them a link to a sticky.
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actually that could be possible, like find a plugin that normally would search the box for any cuss words, and then warn them. but with it you edit it from cuss words, to noobish keywords (like "i am new to this" "how do i get this on my zune" and ect), and edit the warning to give them a link to a sticky.
It's harder than you think.
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It's harder than you think.
not really, all it would take is configuring a text file containing the swear words.


if someone could send me a copy the source of the vbulletins reply page, i could easily insert a script that would look for the noob keywords. im good with php, very good.

i dont wanna waste money and buy a full vbulletin just to get the source, cuz then i wouldnt even bother doing that. id be too busy making my own website for my vbulletin copy, and name the site "bansperday" and have a counter in the top left that shows how many bans there are total and how many there are each day, and id ban each person that signs up, all just for laughs.
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not really, all it would take is configuring a text file containing the swear words.


if someone could send me a copy the source of the vbulletins reply page, i could easily insert a script that would look for the noob keywords. im good with php, very good.

i dont wanna waste money and buy a full vbulletin just to get the source, cuz then i wouldnt even bother doing that. id be too busy making my own website for my vbulletin copy, and name the site "bansperday" and have a counter in the top left that shows how many bans there are total and how many there are each day, and id ban each person that signs up, all just for laughs.
It would be a waste of time, and there would be too many false positives (when the detector gets tripped on a legitimate post). Plus, good luck getting CrowdGather to put something like that on their server.

What makes you think anyone would sign up on your site to begin with?
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one out of every ten people gets a zune.*


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I personally agree with everything he has said. I see this is a great plan and anybody who disagrees is dumb.

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Whenever someone asks a common question, you can search it and give them the search link. After this happening to the same person a few times, they would just start to search it themself instead of waiting for a reply with a search link. This wouldn't completely solve it, but it would help. Also, the thing where it would search a zewbie's post isn't a good idea, because a zewbie isn't necessarily new to zuning and everything. Also, some people might see it as harrassment.
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Whenever someone asks a common question, you can search it and give them the search link. After this happening to the same person a few times, they would just start to search it themself instead of waiting for a reply with a search link. This wouldn't completely solve it, but it would help. Also, the thing where it would search a zewbie's post isn't a good idea, because a zewbie isn't necessarily new to zuning and everything. Also, some people might see it as harrassment.
i would agree if it was rarely asked how to install games, in fact if it wasnt asked so often, zb wouldnt be dead and i wouldnt have posted this...

yes it would stop them if it was the same person, but it isnt, its always a new person each time.

and to all the people who believe that zb aint dying, what ever happened to LedZepp?? ever thought he could have stopped coming here because this may have gotten annoying to him?
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Everyone of you was a noob at one point.
yea, but i was smart and actually read the sticky on the site, and it doesnt get as bad as it has, check the very last example of the posts in the original post.
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