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In general, though, you should ask first. Don't be a dick and assume people are cool with it. |
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you lost the game.
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There's only one person in this transaction who needs to stop being a dick.
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ehh not sure...
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If creators want you to do this to their games, that's great. You are providing a good service to people. No doubt about it and I'm not trying to knock you personally.
I do apologize for coming off harsh, but I've had quite the issue with this entire community's complete lack of regard for the developers, their creations, and their desires. This is the community that encourages copyright infringement and disregards creators' rights so that they can selfishly benefit. So when I see a thread that says "I'm going to convert these games to the beta and you can file a complaint later," of course I get upset. You should ask first. If the developer wants it, great. If they don't, then at least you tried. But ask first. So again, my apologies for my anger, but please just realize that these sorts of things are quite annoying to people like myself. I track the downloads of my games. I want people getting them from my site. |
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ehh not sure...
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Like I said, I get that. But my point really just boils down to one thing:
Ask first. That's really all I'm trying to get across. It isn't hard to shoot out an email saying "Hey, is it cool if I update your game to the beta and release it to people?" and it's really nice to get those emails. You are thinking about the users. And that's great. But you have to think about the creators as well. |
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you lost the game.
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Apparently you consider the failure to consistently yield to the desires of big business to be equal to utter disrespect for the institution of copyright. Copyright is not an excuse for arbitrary and inequitable decrees on the use of your software, directly contrary to the license it is granted under. When a developer creates a game and publishes it, for free, to the community, they relinquish a degree of control. Once something is on the interwebs, it stays there, whether you want it or not. And you will never be able to stop people from transforming, extending, converting, and deriving from your work. It comes with the game. Resisting this is resisting change, and it is resisting the underlying constant of the Internet. What you are advocating is static, rigid and totalitarian control of your media, media that you are purportedly providing for the benefit of the community.
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Thanks guys. I was hoping I wasn't the only one seeing through this guy.
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Great. So I say some mean words and when I try to apologize, the community continues to retaliate. Heck I tried twice to apologize. All I'm asking for is some consideration for the developers, but apparently this community doesn't care about developers' rights. I give up.
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You didn't apologize. You tried to justify why you called me a dick.
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I'm totally down for the similar "Applications" thread by the way. I didn't find this board until after I had upgraded my Firmware to 3.0 the other day. So I haven't even had the joy of trying out the apps yet. ![]() |
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you lost the game.
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However, I see that you're ready to drop this argument, and I am too. It would be nice if you replied to the point however instead of circumventing the argument.
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ehh not sure...
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