Regarding Zune wifi

Marshillboy · 06-06-2008, 04:55 PM

Everybody,

Please stop pretending that you know everything. Because you don't. And neither do I. But here's something I do know. Everybody is claiming that the Zune's wifi "only works within 30 feet or so". While this is true for the zune wifi TRANSMITTER, this is NOT TRUE for the RECEIVING END. The Zune device can receive a wifi signal just as well as any other similarly capable device. Please stop spreading lies.

Thank you,
~Marshillboy~

Space Toast · 06-06-2008, 05:08 PM

thank you also Marshill.
i hate having flame boards material in a game forum.

Stuck thread.

leracos · 06-06-2008, 10:18 PM

I find this intriguing, because my router is a good 200ft from the Zune (30, 2nd gen, no touchpad) and it syncs fine...how is that possible if it can't send the applicable *ack* packets back at the router to confirm packet receipt...or more importantly, to request a connection/IP from the router? I live in a big house, with a lot of interference too...perhaps the Wi-Fi adapter is more capable than we expected? There is literally a microwave, 2.4GHz phone, three TVs, a refrigerator, and stove between where I usually sync my Zune and the router (Belkin Wireless G MIMO Router). That's a LOT of interference. LOL

I don't mean to discredit you, or state you are wrong, but this is my experience. Any suggestions/comments?

SilentWalrus · 06-06-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by leracos

I find this intriguing, because my router is a good 200ft from the Zune (30, 2nd gen, no touchpad) and it syncs fine...how is that possible if it can't send the applicable *ack* packets back at the router to confirm packet receipt...or more importantly, to request a connection/IP from the router? I live in a big house, with a lot of interference too...perhaps the Wi-Fi adapter is more capable than we expected? There is literally a microwave, 2.4GHz phone, three TVs, a refrigerator, and stove between where I usually sync my Zune and the router (Belkin Wireless G MIMO Router). That's a LOT of interference. LOL

I don't mean to discredit you, or state you are wrong, but this is my experience. Any suggestions/comments?

SHADDUP!
He basically means stop with the god damn requests for things that the Zune can't do.

Link9228 · 06-07-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by leracos

I find this intriguing, because my router is a good 200ft from the Zune (30, 2nd gen, no touchpad) and it syncs fine...how is that possible if it can't send the applicable *ack* packets back at the router to confirm packet receipt...or more importantly, to request a connection/IP from the router? I live in a big house, with a lot of interference too...perhaps the Wi-Fi adapter is more capable than we expected? There is literally a microwave, 2.4GHz phone, three TVs, a refrigerator, and stove between where I usually sync my Zune and the router (Belkin Wireless G MIMO Router). That's a LOT of interference. LOL

I don't mean to discredit you, or state you are wrong, but this is my experience. Any suggestions/comments?

That's probably because your wireless router's signal can reach within 30 feet of your zune device. The signal from the zune doesn't have to reach the router itself, only the signal the router is giving off. Most routers have a pretty good range, much more than 30 feet.

wyckedcombo17 · 06-07-2008, 11:19 AM

wow leracos... you could have looked up and answered your questions....
a tv is on a different frequencie than wifi, same thing with microwaves, and the only thing going thru a fridge is electricity... might as well throw in you clocks, lights, radios, alarm clocks, etc in that group of "interference"

Tobososlow · 06-07-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wyckedcombo17

wow leracos... you could have looked up and answered your questions....
a tv is on a different frequencie than wifi, same thing with microwaves, and the only thing going thru a fridge is electricity... might as well throw in you clocks, lights, radios, alarm clocks, etc in that group of "interference"

His wireless 802.11 G router is 2.4GHz frequency, meaning the microwave and the phones would most likely cause interference. But I'm sure you looked up and answered his question.

Space Toast · 06-07-2008, 08:04 PM

most of the things that cause interference are things that produce an electric frequescy in the same range as the device you are trying to use.

leracos · 06-07-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Link9228

That's probably because your wireless router's signal can reach within 30 feet of your zune device. The signal from the zune doesn't have to reach the router itself, only the signal the router is giving off. Most routers have a pretty good range, much more than 30 feet.

Ah, ok. I see what you mean now. Yes, I'm a technician myself; I'm well aware of wireless devices and their capabilities. I get what you're saying though. It's like if two people collectively have 200ft of rope, one having 30ft and the other having 170ft. Thanks for clarifying that.

leracos · 06-07-2008, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyckedcombo17

wow leracos... you could have looked up and answered your questions....
a tv is on a different frequencie than wifi, same thing with microwaves, and the only thing going thru a fridge is electricity... might as well throw in you clocks, lights, radios, alarm clocks, etc in that group of "interference"

Mmm you're half right. Microwaves interfere with ALL wireless devices when active, regardless of frequency. The wavelength the microwave uses acts as a wall to other wavelengths.

As for the TV's, glass. Glass can cause minor interference, the same as walls and windows.

The phone is obvious, 2.4GHz phone, 2.4GHz router. No surprise there.

Fridges and stoves, kinda the same concept as microwaves. The heating/cooling coils are metal, and sometimes provide interference to certain wavelengths. Sometimes it's minor, other times (depending on the fridges settings/if it's overheating/etc.) it can be a real problem.

Edit: Forgot the stove. And now a space. >_<

Tiptup300 · 06-11-2008, 11:42 AM

Actually, both zunes if they need to connect to each will have to receive and give data. Their only as strong as their biggest weakness.

spudwrench · 06-14-2008, 08:52 AM

I can detect my wife's zune from as far as 50 feet away ( yes, I measured it) BUT... from that far away it always says "lost connection" when you try to send a song. At 30 feet there is no problem.

adamburns123 · 06-14-2008, 02:39 PM

please make a list of all games on that use wifi for multiplayer use

LedZepp · 06-14-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by adamburns123

please make a list of all games on that use wifi for multiplayer use

There is no need, there are only a couple games that use wifi at the moment, and they have [Multiplayer] in the thread title

06-06-2008, 10:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
leracos Squirt Join Date: May 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 10 Reputation: 10	Interesting... I find this intriguing, because my router is a good 200ft from the Zune (30, 2nd gen, no touchpad) and it syncs fine...how is that possible if it can't send the applicable ack packets back at the router to confirm packet receipt...or more importantly, to request a connection/IP from the router? I live in a big house, with a lot of interference too...perhaps the Wi-Fi adapter is more capable than we expected? There is literally a microwave, 2.4GHz phone, three TVs, a refrigerator, and stove between where I usually sync my Zune and the router (Belkin Wireless G MIMO Router). That's a LOT of interference. LOL I don't mean to discredit you, or state you are wrong, but this is my experience. Any suggestions/comments?

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wyckedcombo17 An army of many Experienced Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: in a box Posts: 808 Reputation: 51	wow leracos... you could have looked up and answered your questions.... a tv is on a different frequencie than wifi, same thing with microwaves, and the only thing going thru a fridge is electricity... might as well throw in you clocks, lights, radios, alarm clocks, etc in that group of "interference" __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "When the power of love finally overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." - Hendrix (sig by Tobososlow) trouble tagging music? get Picard Tagger To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , it works great! Last edited by wyckedcombo17 : 06-07-2008 at 11:22 AM.

06-11-2008, 11:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tiptup300 Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 387 Reputation: 116	Actually, both zunes if they need to connect to each will have to receive and give data. Their only as strong as their biggest weakness.

06-14-2008, 08:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
spudwrench Squirt Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 12 Reputation: 10	I can detect my wife's zune from as far as 50 feet away ( yes, I measured it) BUT... from that far away it always says "lost connection" when you try to send a song. At 30 feet there is no problem.

06-14-2008, 02:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
adamburns123 Jr. Zuner Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 34 Reputation: 10	please make a list of all games on that use wifi for multiplayer use

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