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Old 10-30-2006, 03:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Ipod and zune

Which one is better? I intend to buy one but still do not decide. If you have idea please tell me. I do not see a zune in Japan so that perhaps I have to buy it online. However, I will try my best to have one.

Hope that you can give me some guides

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Ok, just think about this.

Zune 30 GB, Ipod 30 GB.... both $250. Ipod offers music, pictures, and video... Zune offers music, pictures, video, WiFi Sharing, Firmwares, FM Radio, Customized Wallpapers, etc.. You get MORE with the Zune than the ipod, for the SAME PRICE. So you tell me, what's the smarter choice?
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Id go with the zune just to get away from Apple. And the reasons above are good too.
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At this point, The Zune is in the lead with Features/Functions, Customizations, Originality and Concept (IMO). Its so much more Customizable and personal then an iPod. They also both have similar battery life. The Zune weighs less then an 80GB iPod even though its got a much Larger Screen and is larger then the iPod in total size. The "WiFi Sharing" is a great idea, and might even get more functionality as time goes by. But unless you know someone else with a zune, Its not that useful(at this time). The FM Radio is something the iPod should have had Built-In years ago, But never did(And still doesn't). I like the idea of having a player with an FM Radio built in. That way if the power goes out or there is some type of emergency, You have some way to get information.. It really all comes down to personal preference. If you want a portable Video Player that can also handle Music and Pictures, the Zune is that player. But if you mainly want a Music player which can also display Pictures and Videos, the iPod might be more your style. And if you know anything about Apple, You know its only a matter of time before they release an iPod that can do most of the things the Zune can.
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Great post, +rep for you!
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only thing zune is lacking would be "podcasts"
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Podcasts will arrive after the release, via Firmware.
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I'm sure Zunes will have everything the IPoD has, it is going to be a very supported product.



 
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i just read about the zune, and i think the whole user rights to the song and zune points sort of drew me from the zune, but i have an Ipod anyways, so i dont think id buy a zune until this thing gives way.

plus, one zune point doesnt equal one penny, and buying zune points in blocks of five dollars, listening to a song either 3 times or (some amount of time), whichever comes first, i just think its a hassle.



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i just read about the zune, and i think the whole user rights to the song and zune points sort of drew me from the zune, but i have an Ipod anyways, so i dont think id buy a zune until this thing gives way.

plus, one zune point doesnt equal one penny, and buying zune points in blocks of five dollars, listening to a song either 3 times or (some amount of time), whichever comes first, i just think its a hassle.
accutally the zune pass isnt that bad.It saves time and money.I have Napster to go.Before i was spending loads of money on music.now i just pay the 15.00 and get all my music.In the long run its much easyier.



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I agree Zune Pass isn't that bad of a deal, its much like Blockbuster. Instead of buying every movie you like you rent it as often as you want with a monthly membership.
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the problem with the zune pass is that u only RENT the songs, after you cancel the subscription u loose all your songs

ITS STILL BETTER THAN iTUNES THOUGH



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the problem with the zune pass is that u only RENT the songs, after you cancel the subscription u loose all your songs

ITS STILL BETTER THAN iTUNES THOUGH
Then thats a reason to Buy the songs...:bear:
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Well its not like with iTunes, you can play it on something else, other than an iPod?
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
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One detail you overlooked kido, is the Zune software pretty much nullifies your existing iTunes library. In my case, 150GB worth of pristine tagged, high bitrate music including album art. Attempting to dump a sampling of 4GB worth resulted in erased album art, incorrect track numbering, and other abnormalities. So bad, I simply gave-up and deleted the library.テつ*テつ*When searching for album art, Zuneテ「ツツ冱 search is slow and seldom yields the appropriate result. If the user is not careful, a simple album art search and acceptance could ruin the entire album and its tagging.テつ*テつ*In addition, the simplest activities in iTunes appear to be lengthy in Zune.

The debate of whose hardware is superior is silly and irrelevant. The issue is the end-user experience which boils down to the software or ergonomics. Currently, the Zune application itself sucks.テつ*テつ*Currently, I am still searching for that hidden option to convert unprotected WMA to MP3 within Zune.テつ*テつ*Further, those of us who have vast collections of music stored in iTunes includingテつ*テつ*album art, track and CD numbers will surely not waste that investment while having to fight with the Zune application by duplicating our work.

The Zune hardware is impressive. However, I could do without the clickity-clack of the touch pad. It sounds cheap. Also, I bought the Zune travel pack ($99) and after two minutes, threw the テ「ツツ徘remiumテ「ツツ ear buds in the garbage. By far, the cheapest pieces of junk manufactured to date. However, the carrying case is very nice.

The value of the wireless feature is questionable. The usefulness of this depends on unrestricted transfer and infinite use of unprotected music. If the "3-playテ「ツツ restriction also applies to unprotected music, then the wireless feature is useless.


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Ok, just think about this.

Zune 30 GB, Ipod 30 GB.... both $250. Ipod offers music, pictures, and video... Zune offers music, pictures, video, WiFi Sharing, Firmwares, FM Radio, Customized Wallpapers, etc.. You get MORE with the Zune than the ipod, for the SAME PRICE. So you tell me, what's the smarter choice?



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i am going with the third-party candidate: Zen Vision:M.

Zune beats the zen in video size, but the V:M plays .wmv, .avi, .mpeg, and i think another format. well, Zune does have more audio format support, so i think that kinda makes it a even race in terms of playability.

i own both and am still trying to figure out which one really is better.... in fact, i think i will just make a new topic on it.....



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Update on the wireless feature... Junk:

"No, the Zune's sole wireless feature is "squirting" -- I know, I know, it's Microsoft's term, not mine -- music and pictures to any other Zune device within direct Wi-Fi range. Even if the track is inherently free (like a podcast) the Zune wraps it in a DRM scheme that causes the track to self-destruct after three days or three plays, whichever comes first."

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One detail you overlooked kido, is the Zune software pretty much nullifies your existing iTunes library. In my case, 150GB worth of pristine tagged, high bitrate music including album art. Attempting to dump a sampling of 4GB worth resulted in erased album art, incorrect track numbering, and other abnormalities. So bad, I simply gave-up and deleted the library.テつ*テつ*When searching for album art, Zuneテ「ツツ冱 search is slow and seldom yields the appropriate result. If the user is not careful, a simple album art search and acceptance could ruin the entire album and its tagging.テつ*テつ*In addition, the simplest activities in iTunes appear to be lengthy in Zune.

The debate of whose hardware is superior is silly and irrelevant. The issue is the end-user experience which boils down to the software or ergonomics. Currently, the Zune application itself sucks.テつ*テつ*Currently, I am still searching for that hidden option to convert unprotected WMA to MP3 within Zune.テつ*テつ*Further, those of us who have vast collections of music stored in iTunes includingテつ*テつ*album art, track and CD numbers will surely not waste that investment while having to fight with the Zune application by duplicating our work.

The Zune hardware is impressive. However, I could do without the clickity-clack of the touch pad. It sounds cheap. Also, I bought the Zune travel pack ($99) and after two minutes, threw the テ「ツツ徘remiumテ「ツツ ear buds in the garbage. By far, the cheapest pieces of junk manufactured to date. However, the carrying case is very nice.

The value of the wireless feature is questionable. The usefulness of this depends on unrestricted transfer and infinite use of unprotected music. If the "3-playテ「ツツ restriction also applies to unprotected music, then the wireless feature is useless.


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Ok, just think about this.

Zune 30 GB, Ipod 30 GB.... both $250. Ipod offers music, pictures, and video... Zune offers music, pictures, video, WiFi Sharing, Firmwares, FM Radio, Customized Wallpapers, etc.. You get MORE with the Zune than the ipod, for the SAME PRICE. So you tell me, what's the smarter choice?



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I would just wait until someone manages to crack the 3 days/plays, then we'll all be a happy bunch until the RIAA or someone screams at Microsoft to update and stop it. Then I guess we'll just not update firmwares at that point?



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I would just wait until someone manages to crack the 3 days/plays, then we'll all be a happy bunch until the RIAA or someone screams at Microsoft to update and stop it. Then I guess we'll just not update firmwares at that point?
Or just keep cracking the Firmware
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only thing zune is lacking would be "podcasts"
Or will it be "zunecasts"? Instead of MP3, they might as well use a native Microsoft Windows media format, such as wma.



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