New memory circuit eliminates boot up

MasterSprtn117 · 05-12-2008, 04:14 PM

A new circuit being developed by scientists at Hewlett-Packard promises to do away with booting up altogether.

A computer that incorporates this new kind of memory circuit would never lose it place, even when the power is turned off. "If you turn on your computer it will come up instantly where it was when you turned it off. That is a very interesting potential application, and one that is very realistic," Williams said.

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wyckedcombo17 · 05-12-2008, 04:30 PM

thats somewhat like hibernate. i bet it will suck power at first

Nurta · 05-12-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterSprtn117

A new circuit being developed by scientists at Hewlett-Packard promises to do away with booting up altogether.

A computer that incorporates this new kind of memory circuit would never lose it place, even when the power is turned off. "If you turn on your computer it will come up instantly where it was when you turned it off. That is a very interesting potential application, and one that is very realistic," Williams said.

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It's not a circuit, it's a circuit ELEMENT

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Originally Posted by wyckedcombo17

thats somewhat like hibernate. i bet it will suck power at first

No, 'cause that would be like taking a magnet to your harddrive

Hmm, I thought the transistor was considered a basic circuit element, it's not made up of any smaller elements... Probably the use of the word "passive"...

soccerfreak24 · 05-12-2008, 04:42 PM

That'd be so tight! I hate my 10-15 min boot up...

AquaToad · 05-12-2008, 05:03 PM

if this was developed, i think they would haved to have a way to end the "circuit element" because compus always go go faster after RAM is wiped "restarting computer"

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Originally Posted by soccerfreak24

That'd be so tight! I hate my 10-15 min boot up...

o wow thats a long time. pm me we can probably find some ways to speed that up. for one find your startup processes and dont let programs that you dont need at boot start at boot

Nurta · 05-12-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaToad

if this was developed, i think they would haved to have a way to end the "circuit element" because compus always go go faster after RAM is wiped "restarting computer"

Apply some preset default voltage to it.

Darren · 05-12-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by soccerfreak24

That'd be so tight! I hate my 10-15 min boot up...

What?! I take maybe 45 seconds for XP and 62 seconds for Ubuntu

stkr · 05-12-2008, 06:03 PM

Boot-up is pretty fast already. Though it sounds convenient, I kind of question if it would really be useful. My computer is rarely turned off anyway

. Still interesting, though.

Saline · 05-12-2008, 06:39 PM

I just put a bookmark in my hard drive before I power down.

Tobososlow · 05-12-2008, 07:07 PM

That would be cool I guess, would probably take less power maybe?

Gow616 · 05-12-2008, 09:36 PM

Neat idea. I wonder how it will fair once executed.

Hostile · 05-13-2008, 10:08 AM

It's a cool idea, but windows isn't the best candidate for this. I use hibernate on one of my computers and about once a week I have to do a full reboot because it just gets slow. This also will probably require some electricity while the computer is off, like stand by on XP and vista now.

spenc938 · 05-14-2008, 08:36 PM

This idea uses what is called non-volatile memory. Traditional ram is volatile, which means it requires power to retain data. The way they are talking about, the ram isn't cleared when the computer is shut off. The concept has been floating around for years now, but nobody has really picked it up.

Scrapz616 · 05-14-2008, 08:49 PM

That's pretty cool I guess, my computer doesn't take to long to boot-up anways

Darth Camel · 05-14-2008, 08:57 PM

Wonderful. I can't wait till this rolls out on consumer PCs. It probably only take like 20 years.

jackluo923 · 05-17-2008, 04:53 PM

My modified xp takes about 25 seconds to boot up from cold on my 1.3ghz amd Duron ( at least 6 years old) with 1GB ddr266 ram, 40GB maxtor hdd (55mb/s burst speed, 35mb/s maximum speed and 10mb/s minimum speed) .

Dark616 · 05-17-2008, 05:25 PM

what is modified about it?

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soccerfreak24 Support Team Elite Zuner Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,490 Reputation: 120 $zB: 2466 Donate	That'd be so tight! I hate my 10-15 min boot up... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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stkr 'Keep Moving Forward...' Jr. Staff GFX Crew Elite Zuner Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: United States Posts: 2,100 Reputation: 192 $zB: 1648 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Boot-up is pretty fast already. Though it sounds convenient, I kind of question if it would really be useful. My computer is rarely turned off anyway . Still interesting, though. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Gow616 J.R. "Bob" Dobbs Coyote Support Team Premium Member Section Staff Super Zuner Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fort Wayne, IN, USA Posts: 1,622 Reputation: 220 $zB: 856 Donate	Neat idea. I wonder how it will fair once executed. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Thanks to Mr. Munke, Stkr and Volpe for my sigs, which I will rotate every 2 weeks. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Gow® now ships with Trogdor created profile picture. Gow's Weekly Top Albums Want to know what Gow is listening to? Click on images below. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Hostile Jr. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 269 Reputation: 28 $zB: 287 Donate	It's a cool idea, but windows isn't the best candidate for this. I use hibernate on one of my computers and about once a week I have to do a full reboot because it just gets slow. This also will probably require some electricity while the computer is off, like stand by on XP and vista now. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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spenc938 Experienced Zuner Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 125 Reputation: 10 $zB: 16 Donate	This idea uses what is called non-volatile memory. Traditional ram is volatile, which means it requires power to retain data. The way they are talking about, the ram isn't cleared when the computer is shut off. The concept has been floating around for years now, but nobody has really picked it up.

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Scrapz616 Support Team Graduate Zuner Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New York Posts: 1,432 Reputation: 102 $zB: 1097 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	That's pretty cool I guess, my computer doesn't take to long to boot-up anways __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Throw Ya L's Up To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Darth Camel Zune Freak Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,017 Reputation: 59 $zB: 732 Donate	Wonderful. I can't wait till this rolls out on consumer PCs. It probably only take like 20 years. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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jackluo923 Support Team Senior Zuner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver BC Posts: 1,277 Reputation: 121 $zB: 729 Donate	My modified xp takes about 25 seconds to boot up from cold on my 1.3ghz amd Duron ( at least 6 years old) with 1GB ddr266 ram, 40GB maxtor hdd (55mb/s burst speed, 35mb/s maximum speed and 10mb/s minimum speed) .

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