Basic system maintenance for Windows users

jmslew · 01-24-2007, 09:41 PM

Thought I'd post this after all the antivirus talk in that thread.

Hope it helps!

A few tips if you have a PC:

After installing Windows and all your old files and programs, run the disk cleanup and then defragment. I use Disk Cleaner instead of the Windows built in one. It's free and here is the link: Disk Cleaner

Also I use Perfectdisk 5.0 for a defragmenter instead of the Windows one, and the current version is 8.0. The only reason I have 5.0 is because it was free when I got it. I am unsure if they offer any other free versions anymore but this is the best defragmenter out there. Far superior to the windows defragmenter. Here is the link: PerfectDisk

This is basic system maintenence and only needs to be done generally once every four months or so, depending on how much you use your computer or install/download stuff. Oh and once the antivrus has been run, you shouln't have to do that again.....pretty much ever. The maintenance I was referring to above is disc cleanup and defragmenting.

Also for free Antivirus, I use Avast. Their free version is soooo good I am just completely impressed. The free version offers real time virus scanning protection. Now I am sure a lot of you now use McAfee or Norton. Well Those two programs have basically been deemed completely useless for virus protection. The reason?? Too mainstream. Think about it, you have some computer genius down in his parents' basement developing viruses for the simple fact to corrupt your computer and possibly to run scripts to obtain personal data on your computer.....gross slimey pieces of **** they are, but the first thing they try to do is develop something to get passed what the majority of people have protecting their machines......Norton and McAffee. Here is the link for the free version of Avast: Avast free download You will have to register it after 30 days, but the registration is easy. And still free. After that the registration is for a year and all that happens if you don't register is it won't update.

Off topic, but I recommend you read it:

Also for those of you who are not up to date with this stuff, in an effort to stop piracy, companies have been using piracy protection and at extreme measures. The are a few overly intrusive protection softwares that install into hidden places on your computer, similar to what a virus would do. I know that some of EA Games' Sims patches have been known to do so. Reason I know? Answer=Avast I was setting up my girlfriend's new laptop a few months ago and she plays Sims a lot so as I was attempting to install all the up to date patches, Avast kept blocking the install and I finally looked it up on the net. The problem was not that the software was a virus, just that it was installing itself into a registry to hide it from you, just like viruses do. So, what did I do? knowing that the patch was ok, and there was nothing harmful about it, I disabled the Avast installed the patch and then re enabled the Antivirus. Everything was just fine after that. For those of you that aren't concerned about it, look at this link and how many games have this hidden evil software that you don't even know about it installed on your comp (if you have these games installed): Starforce bad!!! There is also a website with a list of games that has Starforce protection software on it. If you don't want to look into it yourself, basically Starforce has caused some people's CD/DVD drives to stop working. Period. Kaput. Thanks Starforce!!! There are others, like remember when Sony put the Illegal DRM software on its CD's last year? it's a huge issue in the world of gaming right now and I think they may have just come up with the best solution for it. A well done CD key technique and requiring you to register your CD key with that company in order to download patches/maps/updates for the game. Company of Heroes is the first one. All that is on the CD is the game. No requirement to have the CD in the drive while playing to ensure that you do in fact have the game. Just need to have a legit copy to get updates and stuff. That's the way it should be done and hopefully we will see more of that in the future. OK, now getting back on topic....

Ok, if you are already set up and running on Windows and have been noticing a slow down in performance, I recommend that you

1) Open your task manager ctrl+alt+del then click on the performance tab I think (don't have a comp to guide me through it I am doing this off of my own memory so it might not all be just right but shouldn't be too far off), and notice you are using more than 0-5% of you CPU and your memory is being eaten up while the comp is at idle, you probably have a trojan/trojans on your comp. Trojans are some of the most intrusive nasty little things that can effect your computer. And they immediately slow performance to a crawl. I have seen this many times and so badly affected on some computers especially those that don't have a lot of memory, seriously take minutes to accomplish simple tasks such as launching a web browser or opening a file or even getting to the start menu. That's why your CPU and memory are being utilized so much. I strongly recommend you ditch any other antivirus software you are running because clearly unwanted 'nasties' got passed it. I recommend you download and install the above mentioned Avast Antivirus software.

After d/l and installing the Avast Antivirus, run a scan and I strongly recommend that you also do a boot time scan. The best way I can describe a boot time scan is compare it to an offline defrag. Trojans start up and running as your computer starts. A boot time scan requires that you restart your computer and kicks off the Avast program right away as your comp restarts, and catches all these little nasty things. Also, I would recommend deleting the files that have been infected and it will give you a warning if the file is a Windaws file. If it is a Windows file, I recommend quarantining it so as you go and if you notice that certain parts of Windows don't work anymore, you can then return the file. However, usually the case is just that a Windows file has a virus/trojan in it and you are deleting just the bad stuff. I have deleted ALL the bad stuff on every comp I have done this on, including the affected Windows files, and have never had any problems whatsoever. However you decide what you are comfortable with and do that. You could also just quarantine any or all of little nasties, but why still have them on your comp, even if not installed and running when you can delete them? I have seen it (my worst case scenario with helping a friend) return results of 597 Trojans on one computer that I helped doctor back to health. This machine was soooo slowed down. He had 512MB RAM and a P4 @ 3.4GHZ and the task manager showed at idle over 60% CPU usage and ate up nearly all of his RAM. After I performed these things in this post on his comp, it idled at 0-2% CPU usage and freed up his RAM considerably. Also he no longer had to wait seriously 2 minutes for his web browser to finally launch. It was now an instant response. This is the same guy I built this PC for: PC build

And no, the comp I built was not the one affected. It was his old Dell. I fixed it and he decided he wanted a faster comp. The one I built in that link is plenty of computer and probably one of the best bang for your buck comps I have built. I was genuinely impressed and pleased with how well it performed. Ok now back on topic. Oh yeah and I helped him install Windows and get it set up right the first time and he has had no problems with it at all.

I gave him essentially the same class in this post on why he should do the maintenance and keep a good Antivirus on it like Avast.

2) Open your internet browser and clear the cache and history and temp files/downloads.

If you are using Internet Explorer, do this (first I recommend you d/l and install the free disk cleaner): Launch IE go to tools clear history and SSL cache.

If you have Mozilla or firefox go to preferences and clear private data (for best effect check all boxes)

3) Run the disk cleaner or disk cleanup if you didn't d/l the recommended one. And select all the boxes. If you use the windows disk cleanup, it will probably take a while especially if it is your first time doing so and could free a huge amount of space on your HD. I have routinely seen people's computers that have no idea that it is a good idea to use the utilites for basic maintenance, gain upwards of 500MB and up to nearly a whole GB of space, just in the disk cleanup. What the disk cleanup does is removes everything you select, but the things that are most commonly the largest are things like cookies. Cookies are tiny little files that are downloaded to you computer when you go to a website, but over time and you could have a HUGE amount of them just sitting taking up disk space.

4) Defragment your computer using either defragmenter. The version I use is PerfectDisk 5.0 and when you launch it you need to right click on the disk drive and select defragment. During defragmenting I recommend that you let your computer idle. The reason being is because when defragging, your computer is basically re arranging files. So if you use a file/application/or program while it is running, it will just skip re arranging whatever it is you are using. If this is your first time defragging in a while or ever, I would run it twice and then set it to do an offline defrag. All the offline defrag is is basically restarting your computer and the program will analyze which files are used to boot and open first and re arrange them for optimal performance and may increase the speed at which your computer starts up (just slightly and you may not even notice it, but the less the hard disk has to search for the files i.e. they are in order, the quicker and better it will be for you and your comp)

PS, if someone wants to make this into a PDF for download for users that are doing this offline, please feel free to do so.

putis · 01-25-2007, 04:32 AM

Definitely worth a sticky.
Good stuff.

jmslew · 01-25-2007, 10:01 AM

Thanks, I remember promising to post this somewhere else in these forums and forgot about it until today.

tgs · 01-25-2007, 11:08 PM

If anyone wants the Avast! Serial, PM me. The one I have is good until 2010.

jmslew · 01-26-2007, 05:28 AM

Part of the registration that is required to update after 60 days (I think it's 60 days) is they email you a serial back. It is a free serial that unlocks the free version for a year I believe. And if I am not mistaken, you can keep registering when it expires and they'll keep sending you another serial. If you are offering out a serial for a full paid for version of Avast, you are very kind...

thegr8vincenzo · 01-26-2007, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmslew

1) Open your task manager ctrl+alt+del then click on the performance tab I think (don't have a comp to guide me through it I am doing this off of my own memory so it might not all be just right but shouldn't be too far off), and notice you are using more than 0-5% of you CPU and your memory is being eaten up while the comp is at idle, you probably have a trojan/trojans on your comp.

Totally off topic, but I'm just curious how you posted without using your computer? :P

But honestly, all joking aside, thanks for that great write-up. I lot of people, including myself, don't do that kind of regular maintenance but it helps out big time. I did my first disk cleanup the other month after owning my PC for over a year, and I cleared a couple GIGS worth of data. It was like finding 10 bucks under the sofa cushion. ;D

jmslew · 01-26-2007, 12:14 PM

I was on a mac when I wrote this up.

thegr8vincenzo · 01-26-2007, 01:41 PM

I figured as much, I was just joking around.

JakeCourtney · 01-26-2007, 02:03 PM

I wouldn't of typed all that up as there are plenty of guides of that nature crawling on the net. The best kind of maintenance is just doing a fresh reinitialization of the Operating system every five months at a minimum.

thegr8vincenzo · 01-26-2007, 02:59 PM

I'm just a little confused, by "reinitialization" did you mean reinstallation? I'm just going to assume you did. While I agree that formatting your computer is the best way to get it working like new again, I think there's too much hassle with backing everything up and then reinstalling software, drivers, and adjusting settings. I think if you follow the things jmslew has written, and take care of your PC it shouldn't need a fresh install to run properly.

Aside from recently running disk cleanup for the first time, I do perform regular maintenance such as defragmentation of my hard drives, running spyware removers, and cleaning my registry. That being said, I haven't had any need to do a fresh install because my computer still performs very well.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong because I don't claim to be a definitive source on the subject. I'm just stating things from my own experience.

jmslew · 01-28-2007, 02:55 AM

Yeah, I worte this for people who don't have the means to reinstall everything, or actually more for people to be able to enjoy the quick snappy responsiveness of a fresh install without having to reinstall stuff. Reinstalling will make it faster, but it'll just slow down again and, with people like me...well, it takes me near a day to get everything set up initially and I would like to avoid having to do it several times a year. No to mention I have a 2Mbps internet connection right now and it would take me near 2 whole days to get EVERYTHING set back up if I had to start from here.

Deneteus · 05-15-2007, 08:19 AM

i am here because the zune software install doens't work offline. and that really really sucks. because i windows mce 2005 and vista ultimate and it doesn't work. but i am not giving up. till i crush the zune with the power of the internet.

deneteus

theDark · 05-15-2007, 10:27 AM

download the zune installer from zune.net, should sort that problem right out.

Dark616 · 05-15-2007, 12:38 PM

Doesn't vista do defraging automatically?

winkieflash · 07-03-2007, 06:19 AM

Just another good tool for maintenance: CCleaner.

It cleans your registry, your temp files, and cleans up after you after youve installed or removed software.

Run it every day and your computer will run smooooth again

permalink · 07-04-2007, 02:21 PM

Here are all the tools that I use except for the Firewall as I don't need one. I made this collection for a friend so it will have an unusual name. Everything is Vista compatible since I am running Vista unless noted otherwise.

http://www.mediafire.com/?clf4jxxzg9p

It consists of:
Diskeeper Pro 2007 (Defrag)
RegCure (Registry Cleaner)
WinRar
AVG Anti-Virus (Free Edition)
CCleaner
EasyBCD 1.6 (Partician Program Compatible with all OSs)
Revo-Uninstaller (Great Program for cleaning everything from uninstalling to hiding your tracks from EVERYTHING!!)
SOPHOS Anti-Rootkit(This is NOT usable on Vista)
ZoneAlarm (Firewall)

Robb4248 · 07-04-2007, 02:54 PM

If you run Windows XP on an NTFS disk, there will be no reason to defrag.

Nathan · 07-22-2007, 01:52 PM

it said it would conflict with norton, should i just uninstall it?

permalink · 07-22-2007, 02:18 PM

Are you talking about Avast? If so yes uninstall Norton and download Spyware terminator as your firewall and spyware protection and Avast as you anti-virus. I Highly recommend Diskeeper Pro 2007 though it does this auto defrag thing so when your comp is in idol it defrags for you then stops when you get back on.

Zuune · 04-08-2008, 03:08 PM

Thats good info. From my personal experiance i recomend that u install most of the programs u will be using (if u have them) before u make multiple users. Also some programs like hp software like to put unnesery icons in the notification area, i recomend staying away from them if their are alternatives or u dont nesseraily need them.

01-24-2007, 09:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
jmslew Experienced Zuner Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 220 Reputation: 11 $zB: 0 Donate	Basic system maintenance for Windows users Thought I'd post this after all the antivirus talk in that thread. Hope it helps! A few tips if you have a PC: After installing Windows and all your old files and programs, run the disk cleanup and then defragment. I use Disk Cleaner instead of the Windows built in one. It's free and here is the link: Disk Cleaner Also I use Perfectdisk 5.0 for a defragmenter instead of the Windows one, and the current version is 8.0. The only reason I have 5.0 is because it was free when I got it. I am unsure if they offer any other free versions anymore but this is the best defragmenter out there. Far superior to the windows defragmenter. Here is the link: PerfectDisk This is basic system maintenence and only needs to be done generally once every four months or so, depending on how much you use your computer or install/download stuff. Oh and once the antivrus has been run, you shouln't have to do that again.....pretty much ever. The maintenance I was referring to above is disc cleanup and defragmenting. Also for free Antivirus, I use Avast. Their free version is soooo good I am just completely impressed. The free version offers real time virus scanning protection. Now I am sure a lot of you now use McAfee or Norton. Well Those two programs have basically been deemed completely useless for virus protection. The reason?? Too mainstream. Think about it, you have some computer genius down in his parents' basement developing viruses for the simple fact to corrupt your computer and possibly to run scripts to obtain personal data on your computer.....gross slimey pieces of **** they are, but the first thing they try to do is develop something to get passed what the majority of people have protecting their machines......Norton and McAffee. Here is the link for the free version of Avast: Avast free download You will have to register it after 30 days, but the registration is easy. And still free. After that the registration is for a year and all that happens if you don't register is it won't update. Off topic, but I recommend you read it: Also for those of you who are not up to date with this stuff, in an effort to stop piracy, companies have been using piracy protection and at extreme measures. The are a few overly intrusive protection softwares that install into hidden places on your computer, similar to what a virus would do. I know that some of EA Games' Sims patches have been known to do so. Reason I know? Answer=Avast I was setting up my girlfriend's new laptop a few months ago and she plays Sims a lot so as I was attempting to install all the up to date patches, Avast kept blocking the install and I finally looked it up on the net. The problem was not that the software was a virus, just that it was installing itself into a registry to hide it from you, just like viruses do. So, what did I do? knowing that the patch was ok, and there was nothing harmful about it, I disabled the Avast installed the patch and then re enabled the Antivirus. Everything was just fine after that. For those of you that aren't concerned about it, look at this link and how many games have this hidden evil software that you don't even know about it installed on your comp (if you have these games installed): Starforce bad!!! There is also a website with a list of games that has Starforce protection software on it. If you don't want to look into it yourself, basically Starforce has caused some people's CD/DVD drives to stop working. Period. Kaput. Thanks Starforce!!! There are others, like remember when Sony put the Illegal DRM software on its CD's last year? it's a huge issue in the world of gaming right now and I think they may have just come up with the best solution for it. A well done CD key technique and requiring you to register your CD key with that company in order to download patches/maps/updates for the game. Company of Heroes is the first one. All that is on the CD is the game. No requirement to have the CD in the drive while playing to ensure that you do in fact have the game. Just need to have a legit copy to get updates and stuff. That's the way it should be done and hopefully we will see more of that in the future. OK, now getting back on topic.... Ok, if you are already set up and running on Windows and have been noticing a slow down in performance, I recommend that you 1) Open your task manager ctrl+alt+del then click on the performance tab I think (don't have a comp to guide me through it I am doing this off of my own memory so it might not all be just right but shouldn't be too far off), and notice you are using more than 0-5% of you CPU and your memory is being eaten up while the comp is at idle, you probably have a trojan/trojans on your comp. Trojans are some of the most intrusive nasty little things that can effect your computer. And they immediately slow performance to a crawl. I have seen this many times and so badly affected on some computers especially those that don't have a lot of memory, seriously take minutes to accomplish simple tasks such as launching a web browser or opening a file or even getting to the start menu. That's why your CPU and memory are being utilized so much. I strongly recommend you ditch any other antivirus software you are running because clearly unwanted 'nasties' got passed it. I recommend you download and install the above mentioned Avast Antivirus software. After d/l and installing the Avast Antivirus, run a scan and I strongly recommend that you also do a boot time scan. The best way I can describe a boot time scan is compare it to an offline defrag. Trojans start up and running as your computer starts. A boot time scan requires that you restart your computer and kicks off the Avast program right away as your comp restarts, and catches all these little nasty things. Also, I would recommend deleting the files that have been infected and it will give you a warning if the file is a Windaws file. If it is a Windows file, I recommend quarantining it so as you go and if you notice that certain parts of Windows don't work anymore, you can then return the file. However, usually the case is just that a Windows file has a virus/trojan in it and you are deleting just the bad stuff. I have deleted ALL the bad stuff on every comp I have done this on, including the affected Windows files, and have never had any problems whatsoever. However you decide what you are comfortable with and do that. You could also just quarantine any or all of little nasties, but why still have them on your comp, even if not installed and running when you can delete them? I have seen it (my worst case scenario with helping a friend) return results of 597 Trojans on one computer that I helped doctor back to health. This machine was soooo slowed down. He had 512MB RAM and a P4 @ 3.4GHZ and the task manager showed at idle over 60% CPU usage and ate up nearly all of his RAM. After I performed these things in this post on his comp, it idled at 0-2% CPU usage and freed up his RAM considerably. Also he no longer had to wait seriously 2 minutes for his web browser to finally launch. It was now an instant response. This is the same guy I built this PC for: PC build And no, the comp I built was not the one affected. It was his old Dell. I fixed it and he decided he wanted a faster comp. The one I built in that link is plenty of computer and probably one of the best bang for your buck comps I have built. I was genuinely impressed and pleased with how well it performed. Ok now back on topic. Oh yeah and I helped him install Windows and get it set up right the first time and he has had no problems with it at all. I gave him essentially the same class in this post on why he should do the maintenance and keep a good Antivirus on it like Avast. 2) Open your internet browser and clear the cache and history and temp files/downloads. If you are using Internet Explorer, do this (first I recommend you d/l and install the free disk cleaner): Launch IE go to tools clear history and SSL cache. If you have Mozilla or firefox go to preferences and clear private data (for best effect check all boxes) 3) Run the disk cleaner or disk cleanup if you didn't d/l the recommended one. And select all the boxes. If you use the windows disk cleanup, it will probably take a while especially if it is your first time doing so and could free a huge amount of space on your HD. I have routinely seen people's computers that have no idea that it is a good idea to use the utilites for basic maintenance, gain upwards of 500MB and up to nearly a whole GB of space, just in the disk cleanup. What the disk cleanup does is removes everything you select, but the things that are most commonly the largest are things like cookies. Cookies are tiny little files that are downloaded to you computer when you go to a website, but over time and you could have a HUGE amount of them just sitting taking up disk space. 4) Defragment your computer using either defragmenter. The version I use is PerfectDisk 5.0 and when you launch it you need to right click on the disk drive and select defragment. During defragmenting I recommend that you let your computer idle. The reason being is because when defragging, your computer is basically re arranging files. So if you use a file/application/or program while it is running, it will just skip re arranging whatever it is you are using. If this is your first time defragging in a while or ever, I would run it twice and then set it to do an offline defrag. All the offline defrag is is basically restarting your computer and the program will analyze which files are used to boot and open first and re arrange them for optimal performance and may increase the speed at which your computer starts up (just slightly and you may not even notice it, but the less the hard disk has to search for the files i.e. they are in order, the quicker and better it will be for you and your comp) PS, if someone wants to make this into a PDF for download for users that are doing this offline, please feel free to do so.

01-25-2007, 04:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
putis Stronger than dirt Administrator Zune Priest Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami, Fl. Posts: 6,956 Reputation: 145 $zB: 3038 Donate	Re: Basic system maintenance for Window users Definitely worth a sticky. Good stuff. __________________ The aim of psychoanalysis is to relieve people of their neurotic unhappiness so that they can be normally unhappy. -Sigmund Freud

01-25-2007, 10:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
jmslew Experienced Zuner Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 220 Reputation: 11 $zB: 0 Donate	Re: Basic system maintenance for Window users Thanks, I remember promising to post this somewhere else in these forums and forgot about it until today.

01-25-2007, 11:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
tgs Zuner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 72 Reputation: 10 $zB: 10 Donate	Re: Basic system maintenance for Window users If anyone wants the Avast! Serial, PM me. The one I have is good until 2010.

01-26-2007, 05:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
jmslew Experienced Zuner Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 220 Reputation: 11 $zB: 0 Donate	Re: Basic system maintenance for Window users Part of the registration that is required to update after 60 days (I think it's 60 days) is they email you a serial back. It is a free serial that unlocks the free version for a year I believe. And if I am not mistaken, you can keep registering when it expires and they'll keep sending you another serial. If you are offering out a serial for a full paid for version of Avast, you are very kind...

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01-26-2007, 12:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
jmslew Experienced Zuner Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 220 Reputation: 11 $zB: 0 Donate	Re: Basic system maintenance for Window users I was on a mac when I wrote this up.

01-26-2007, 01:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
thegr8vincenzo Jr. Zuner Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 48 Reputation: 10 $zB: 0 Donate	Re: Basic system maintenance for Window users I figured as much, I was just joking around. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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JakeCourtney Experienced Zuner Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 219 Reputation: 10 $zB: 0 Donate	Re: Basic system maintenance for Window users I wouldn't of typed all that up as there are plenty of guides of that nature crawling on the net. The best kind of maintenance is just doing a fresh reinitialization of the Operating system every five months at a minimum.

01-26-2007, 02:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
thegr8vincenzo Jr. Zuner Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 48 Reputation: 10 $zB: 0 Donate	Re: Basic system maintenance for Window users I'm just a little confused, by "reinitialization" did you mean reinstallation? I'm just going to assume you did. While I agree that formatting your computer is the best way to get it working like new again, I think there's too much hassle with backing everything up and then reinstalling software, drivers, and adjusting settings. I think if you follow the things jmslew has written, and take care of your PC it shouldn't need a fresh install to run properly. Aside from recently running disk cleanup for the first time, I do perform regular maintenance such as defragmentation of my hard drives, running spyware removers, and cleaning my registry. That being said, I haven't had any need to do a fresh install because my computer still performs very well. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong because I don't claim to be a definitive source on the subject. I'm just stating things from my own experience. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

01-28-2007, 02:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
jmslew Experienced Zuner Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 220 Reputation: 11 $zB: 0 Donate	Re: Basic system maintenance for Window users Yeah, I worte this for people who don't have the means to reinstall everything, or actually more for people to be able to enjoy the quick snappy responsiveness of a fresh install without having to reinstall stuff. Reinstalling will make it faster, but it'll just slow down again and, with people like me...well, it takes me near a day to get everything set up initially and I would like to avoid having to do it several times a year. No to mention I have a 2Mbps internet connection right now and it would take me near 2 whole days to get EVERYTHING set back up if I had to start from here.

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Deneteus Zewbie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3 Reputation: 10 $zB: 1 Donate	hello i am here because the zune software install doens't work offline. and that really really sucks. because i windows mce 2005 and vista ultimate and it doesn't work. but i am not giving up. till i crush the zune with the power of the internet. deneteus

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lacrosse_man16 Posts: n/a $zB: Donate	Here are all the tools that I use except for the Firewall as I don't need one. I made this collection for a friend so it will have an unusual name. Everything is Vista compatible since I am running Vista unless noted otherwise. http://www.mediafire.com/?clf4jxxzg9p It consists of: Diskeeper Pro 2007 (Defrag) RegCure (Registry Cleaner) WinRar AVG Anti-Virus (Free Edition) CCleaner EasyBCD 1.6 (Partician Program Compatible with all OSs) Revo-Uninstaller (Great Program for cleaning everything from uninstalling to hiding your tracks from EVERYTHING!!) SOPHOS Anti-Rootkit(This is NOT usable on Vista) ZoneAlarm (Firewall) Last edited by lacrosse_man16 : 07-04-2007 at 02:30 PM.

07-04-2007, 02:54 PM	#17 (permalink)
Robb4248 d(-.-)b Hacks and Mods Crew Zune Freak Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Harrisburg, Pa Posts: 1,023 Reputation: 53 $zB: 25 Donate	If you run Windows XP on an NTFS disk, there will be no reason to defrag. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Check out me 0wnage New Tech Site: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Vote for my site in the To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-22-2007, 01:52 PM	#18 (permalink)
Nathan Zuner Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 86 Reputation: 12 $zB: 0 Donate	it said it would conflict with norton, should i just uninstall it?

07-22-2007, 02:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
lacrosse_man16 Posts: n/a $zB: Donate	Are you talking about Avast? If so yes uninstall Norton and download Spyware terminator as your firewall and spyware protection and Avast as you anti-virus. I Highly recommend Diskeeper Pro 2007 though it does this auto defrag thing so when your comp is in idol it defrags for you then stops when you get back on.

04-08-2008, 03:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
Zuune Experienced Zuner Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 132 Reputation: 9 $zB: 37 Donate	Thats good info. From my personal experiance i recomend that u install most of the programs u will be using (if u have them) before u make multiple users. Also some programs like hp software like to put unnesery icons in the notification area, i recomend staying away from them if their are alternatives or u dont nesseraily need them.

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