Should we outlaw abortion?

[AquaToad]

i do think it is bad to have an abortion, but i think there is certain circumstances where it is ok. like rape. then its ok

[Saline]

Mreh, yeah I'd have to agree with you on this. It's a shame people aren't very responsible about this and don't think babies are humans until they leave the body =|

[mr.handsomeman]

i think that abortion should be okay if your underage. it goes against my religion but this is something that i have decided on my own now and i dont think its wrong if i dont do it you know?

[Hostile]

I lean towards the side of pro-choice on this issue. Sure you are killing a potential human being. But if the girl is underage, there is no way she can properly raise a child, so the child will either grow up in a broken home, and not be raised properly, or go up for adoption. Both ways are not the best things for a young child. I am totally against partial birth abortions, because that is just sick and wrong. To me though who is kind of a science geek, it's just a mass of cells at the early stage, not really a person. It doesn't have emotions or any of that, that all comes later. But having a baby just to have it is wrong, being raised by an irresponsible parent can turn the child to be just like that and maybe into a criminal. My 2 cents.

[Little Horn]

Originally Posted by Hostile

I lean towards the side of pro-choice on this issue. Sure you are killing a potential human being. But if the girl is underage, there is no way she can properly raise a child, so the child will either grow up in a broken home, and not be raised properly, or go up for adoption. Both ways are not the best things for a young child. I am totally against partial birth abortions, because that is just sick and wrong. To me though who is kind of a science geek, it's just a mass of cells at the early stage, not really a person. It doesn't have emotions or any of that, that all comes later. But having a baby just to have it is wrong, being raised by an irresponsible parent can turn the child to be just like that and maybe into a criminal. My 2 cents.

I understand where you are coming from however, to say that a fetus is just a mass of cells is ridiculous. There have been babies that have been born month pre-mature and able to live. I always think adoption is the best way to go however, I also believe in a person's right to choose.

I'm not quite sure how you figure adoption isn't a good foundation. Do you realize the screening process to adopt a child? Sure a screening isn't going to always weed out the bad one but it's more than what they put people through who are having their child and plan to raise it. Adoption is always better than death. Always!

[mr.handsomeman]

Originally Posted by floorpuncher

I'm not quite sure how you figure adoption isn't a good foundation. Do you realize the screening process to adopt a child? Sure a screening isn't going to always weed out the bad one but it's more than what they put people through who are having their child and plan to raise it. Adoption is always better than death. Always!

i don't think that anyone should be able to even go through that though, the screening process? I mean, i think that the only people that should be adoption parents should be the people that aren't able to have their own kids, because then you know, that they're going to love that kid like no one else would be able to.

[lacrosse_man16]

I think that it should only be available for mothers in danger of death. If finance is an issue you should have used some kind of protection, if you did well put it up for adoption. If you just dont want it put it up for adoption or you should have thought about this happening before you had sex.

[Hostile]

I am pro choice, it should be a woman's decision. I also think the argument that you're killing a potential person is dumb. Every time someone uses a condom you could say that you just killed a potential person, should we stop making condoms? YOU ARE KILLING A MASS OF CELLS. If that's the mother's choice then its the right one.

[Techy Dude]

TOTALLY agree with sonic geek we should out law abortion bc it is like muredering someone i dont know why people do it its so stupid any way i hope it happens thnx for bringing this issue up

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by lacrosse_man18

I think that it should only be available for mothers in danger of death. If finance is an issue you should have used some kind of protection, if you did well put it up for adoption. If you just dont want it put it up for adoption or you should have thought about this happening before you had sex.

, I don't think many mothers have the threat of dieing at childbirth in the US however

[Napoleon Iven Quinnly]

folks abortion is murder plain and simple, singling out rape victims is unfair because that is a small part of the overall population of women that get abortions (although in this situation i can see some potential for debate) , here in oklahoma we have within the last month just passed an excellent law which is a step i the right direction, it forces women who have an abortion to view a sonogram of the baby before they can abort it so they see the person they are getting ready to kill....and yes i am a social conservative

[133794m3r]

Originally Posted by sonicgeek

Ok i thought i should bring the debate out in the open. This is my personal standpoint: Abortion kills innocent children because you were stupid and became pregnant without wanting a child, so you think you should be able to kill an unborn (or "half born" as the selfish women call it) child without caring about what the child could have been. I also believe that selective abortion is terrible, not just for the children killed, but the siblings. (how would you like having the knowledge that your parents killed your sibling just because you seemed the wiser choice to keep, all that guilt all your life just because of someone elses selfishness?)

So anyway vote.

Well, I'm for it in certain instances, such as rape, the mother's life will be in danger and both may be lost, the child will most likely be still porn.
And Hey Sonic, let's just test your therum.
What if a girl was raped by her father? Should she have to carry his baby for the full term? Huh? Should she? She wasn't the one who chose it to happen, it happened to her! So thus, we can say that it should happen in only selective cases. But if we did that the govt. would eventually completely outlaw it and you can't kill a child halfborn, that's called partial birth abortion. And that's illegal. And my view is the same as Testicles (Prounounced Test-a-Clese) yes this guy is real, he was a philospher. A greek one but that's beside the point. Life doesn't begin until blood courses through the veins and stops when it ends. So thus... I must say that it should stay legal. But if we tried to regulate it, then some girls wouldn't be able to get an abortion b/c the govt. wouldn't let them. And thus I think it should stay exactly as it is. Legal, EVEN THOUGH SOME STATES HAVE MADE IT ALMOST ILLEGAL! Ok, I'm calm now again sorta, but I need to get back on my train of thought. In some states like Mississippi I believe there is only 1 abortion clinic. Now! How does that make someone feel? Huh? Also it's never going to end Sonic. So if you did make it illegal or tried to put restrictions on it, then you'd have people going into alley ways and get a "coat hanger abortion". I also would much rather have a woman go to a clinic that's clean and sanitary, and much safer than for them to just get some hack job from a person who knows nothing about the procedure. So I guess you're for pointless death, and suffering of people. I must also state that my view is such... keep it legal so that people will go to a safe clinic where they will atleast get a safe procedure.
Well that's about it... there's my as of now. If you disagree then go right ahead and show me why I'm wrong, and I'll defend my views.

[mr.handsomeman]

Originally Posted by lacrosse_man18

I think that it should only be available for mothers in danger of death. If finance is an issue you should have used some kind of protection, if you did well put it up for adoption. If you just dont want it put it up for adoption or you should have thought about this happening before you had sex.

but seriously, who the hell thinks about that when they're having sex? I mean, the thought might cross their mind, but nobody listens to it really. Some people can, but some can't.

[Gow616]

Originally Posted by mr.handsomeman

but seriously, who the hell thinks about that when they're having sex? I mean, the thought might cross their mind, but nobody listens to it really. Some people can, but some can't.

Yet, each time I remembered to pull out or bag that stuff. I think the only people who really don't listen are the ones who don't care. This is nothing knew to human society it has been happening since time immemorial it just with recent advancements in technology that we actually have abortive procedures.

My only qualm with abortion is its use by individuals as a method of birth control like after morning pills but they let it go to long ending up with a need for the procedure.

Takes two to tango, so unless that is the person you want to be with, have kids with, etc. remember to "PULL OUT!"

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[mr.handsomeman]

Originally Posted by Gow616

Yet, each time I remembered to pull out or bag that stuff. I think the only people who really don't listen are the ones who don't care.
Takes two to tango, so unless that is the person you want to be with, have kids with, etc. remember to "PULL OUT!"

I recommend that all guys should listen to this song: http://www.imeem.com/people/DjK9QBV/...l_dating_tips/

pulling out isn't a gurantee though, there's always stuff coming out of your john,

as far as people who don't care, I can see that, but at some point, they're going to care, but in the moment, they don't care.

[collver]

Yes abortion is a very dirty buisness, and every one around cringes when the A word is dropped. However who are we to decide what a person can or can't do with there body, yes I realize that leaves the door open for suicide, drugs, and every other nasty thing a person can do to themselves. And I say yes to all of those things, If a person wants to do something they will most likely find away. Case in point all the myriad numbers of women who die from complications brought on from street abortions.
With my status of being male I have no way of contemplating the female psyche should she be put in such a situation, so I have no way of deciding for her what she can or can't do. You may say I am a monster for advocating "murder," but let us be practical, if a woman has a good enough reason to reach out for an abortion, there is a good chance that that child will not grow up in an environment necessary for healthy development. To this you would say adoption, however statistics show that an extremely high number of foster kids grow up to be a crime statistic. And that is for the few who actually get adopted, the adoption rate for children in most cases in not immediate. With some children spending lengthy amounts of time in orphanages before they are adopted.
Now I was once asked by a christian how I would feel if my mother had aborted me, and to her I said I wouldn't have minded, simply because I was not cognitive of my exsistence.
Every one is entitled to there opinion, however I truly believe that no person on earth can tell another what they can or can't do to there bodies.

With all that being said I am also pro-life, as I will probably not come to that choice for my children, but ultimately it is the choice of my child's mother, as it is her body that must inevitably go through the process. In my opinion a pro-life/choice stance is the best as you can choose for your self, yet you let other decide for themselves. As that great big book once called the bible once said, forgive and forget.