It is naive to think that I must know Canadians that think that Canada is better than every other country.
Not know personally, but the initial assumption was that since you knew of none equated that there were none, something complete full of naïveté in its conception.
Thus I only intended to quash the naive assumption that since one does not know any individuals personally that it meant the country was free from such shenanigans.
Truthfully, I don't know any US Citizens personally who believe the US is superior to all nations of the world, but I do know they exist. I lost that naive train of thought long ago.
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Perhaps that is generally true, but the "average person" is not the same for every country. I was simply sharing information on my experiences, which happens to relate to Americans in particular.
So, I will share mine. Since this a sharing information on experiences moment.
Online does tend to let the scum rise to the surface (as in that layer of impurities that accumulates at the surface of a liquid).
Canada - Upon noting that a purported sitcom that was set in the United States, but filmed in Canada. I quipped that it was a unique American comedy. To which a response was deemed necessary by someone that went along the lines of... "Canada superior, U.S. inferior".
United Kingdom - See it all the time, on politics, entertainment, or anything... "UK is superior."
France - Country has a law that has the national language enforced on Radio stations so that every so much time spent on foreign language music equal time is spent on French language music.
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So you mean just like how some people consider something good and superior due to its country of origin?
Goes hand in hand, it is all the same in the end. The inferiority or superiority judgement that is based on country of origin permeates to everything, as you pointed out.
Not know personally, but the initial assumption was that since you knew of none equated that there were none, something complete full of naïveté in its conception.
Thus I only intended to quash the naive assumption that since one does not know any individuals personally that it meant the country was free from such shenanigans.
Truthfully, I don't know any US Citizens personally who believe the US is superior to all nations of the world, but I do know they exist. I lost that naive train of thought long ago.
Good job at squashing an assumption that was not there in the first place. I never said nor implied that my not knowing any individuals personally meant the country was free from such shenanigans. I was just pointing out that such people were much easier for me to find in America than in Canada, since you listed Canada as one of the countries that you claim "practice it more widely, and fiercely than the United States."
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So, I will share mine. Since this a sharing information on experiences moment.
Online does tend to let the scum rise to the surface (as in that layer of impurities that accumulates at the surface of a liquid).
Canada - Upon noting that a purported sitcom that was set in the United States, but filmed in Canada. I quipped that it was a unique American comedy. To which a response was deemed necessary by someone that went along the lines of... "Canada superior, U.S. inferior".
United Kingdom - See it all the time, on politics, entertainment, or anything... "UK is superior."
France - Country has a law that has the national language enforced on Radio stations so that every so much time spent on foreign language music equal time is spent on French language music.
I was just saying that I was talking about Americans because they are a part of my past experiences, and not because I think that they are the only ones that think they are superior.
Of course there will be people all over the place that are overzealous about their country. If you know much about France, you should know that they are very strict about their language. Such a law is obviously not necessary, but I do not find it surprising.
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Goes hand in hand, it is all the same in the end. The inferiority or superiority judgement that is based on country of origin permeates to everything, as you pointed out.
Stereotypes are partially to blame for keeping those judgements going.
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As far as debates I can guarantee you guys are WAY out of my league. However, I will say this: I dont see this video as being offensive I reallly dont, I see them as trying to celebrate the new president. Keep in mind these are only children and not adults. Would my opinion change if it was only adults singing this song...probably not. I dont even see how this is offensive to tell you the truth. How do you see it as offensive @ OP.
Good job at squashing an assumption that wasnotthere in the first place. I never said nor implied that my not knowing any individuals personally meant the country was free from such shenanigans. I was just pointing out that such people were much easier for me to find in America than in Canada, since you listed Canada as one of the countries that you claim "practice it more widely, and fiercely than the United States."
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I do not know a single Canadian that thinks Canada is better than every other country in the world. I have seen several Americans...
While it might not be stated, the implication that since are none are known, and Americans are known that either A) Canada has none, B) Canada has fewer, C) Canada is superior D) Both A and C are correct, E) That several Americans equates to higher ratio than Canada, F) etcetera....
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How do you see it as offensive @ OP.
Not at all, I just stated "Thoughts?" My only qualm was with the use of the Battle Hymn of the Republic tune due to the history behind that tune.
While it might not be stated, the implication that since are none are known, and Americans are known that either A) Canada has none, B) Canada has fewer, C) Canada is superior D) Both A and C are correct, E) That several Americans equates to higher ratio than Canada, F) etcetera....
My point was that if Canada does "practice it more widely, and fiercely than the United States" as you claimed, would it not be more likely for me to find more Canadians than Americans that do so?
Again, I merely said what I have experienced. I have no control over what people infer from it. Thinking that what I said means "Canada has none", or something similar, is as valid as thinking that what you said (United Kingdom - See it all the time, on politics, entertainment, or anything... "UK is superior.") means that most people in the U.K. must be like that since you have seen it 'all the time'.
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My point was that if Canada does "practice it more widely, and fiercely than the United States" as you claimed, would it not be more likely for me to find more Canadians than Americans that do so?
If that is what you inferred from a listing of countries... WOW, can you tell what the winning lottery numbers are? Whether the coin will be heads or tails? Have you auditioned to be on the Mentalist?
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Again, I merely said what I have experienced. I have no control over what people infer from it.
However, there is little room to play with leaving people to infer it within a narrow scope.
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Thinking that what I said means "Canada has none", or something similar, is as valid as thinking that what you said ...
I left a whole bunch of options including an etcetera answer because the options although finite are too long to care to waste the time listing.
Plus my experience answer was in response to your experience answer, thus drawing that kind of conclusion would only be possible if taken out of context.
Ultimately, we shall go back, and forth without one realizing that all countries have this problem, and just playing the game of "well your country has more" only serves to point out that the person has fallen prey to the whole mindset of superiority or inferiority on a field where NO high ground exists.
As for, which country has more... who gives a right bloody ****, I could care less about that little pissing contest as it pulls people away from the fact that IT IS STILL THERE, whether they admit it or not. I know the United States has this problem, and I freely admit, can others do the same?
