Animal Cruelty in Slaughterhouses

Neobeard · 08-19-2008, 10:17 PM

Showed this video by a friend from another forum.. no i myself am not a vegetarian, but this opened my eyes.. My reaction was also written from a christian viewpoint.

WARNING video does contain some very graphic material
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My comments on the video (it was a reply to a specific person in reaction to the video):
Wow.. that was truly the first time i've ever been exposed to that kind of a video.. Very very disturbing and horrifying. I think what made it worse was the fact that those are every day "old mcdonald" farm animals.. its almost like brutalizing a pet in a sense. Now your wondering if you converted me to a vegetarian.. im going to say no.. maybe for the time being, mostly because i have a lot of relatives that were farmers and never treated the animals in such a way, that may be just a small minority but in the long run how is not eating meat helping to stop this? I am an avid hunter and enjoy it as a sport.. so naturally i eat the game i harvest. I'll still eat meat, but it won't be the same now.. cause i will wonder what happened to the animal who's meat this was.. It might just be naivety on the topic but i do belive that what that video showed was the VERY VERY WORST of the meat industry and that the vast majority of slaughterhouses/farms are humane.. God put the animals on the earth to provide us with food (which is what i belive, and why im not a vegetarian), im not saying there is anything wrong with being one.. in fact i support you and other vegetarians) but God didn't have this kind of treatment planned for his creations.

I'd like to hear some of your thought's and views on this issue. Also state if your a vegetarian or not when you post.

Shinigami. · 08-19-2008, 10:38 PM

I have seen stuff like that, its horrible, deplorable, and just plain gruesome. it is sad that people can just kill without remorse like that. no i am not a vegetarian, but i know where i get my food from.

133794m3r · 08-19-2008, 10:40 PM

Well I'm not a vegetarian. And I've seen videos like that before. And although it's very cruel I don't think i'm going to stop eating meat any time soon. Since I don't really think about what's going into my meat when I eat it. I know how cruel they are to the animals that they kill. I just personally don't try to think about when I eat my food. I don't hunt any sort animals. Even though I don't, I still find the need to eat meat very high. I personally hold no comapassion for any sort of animals that i can't have as a pet. I do feel sorry for the animals in the testing areas. Mainly the cats, dogs, rabbits, and other household animals that i can actually hold and own as a pet. To the slaughter house animals I feel no compassion for them and thus I can say that if i had to, I could kill them myself. I'd find no reason why I wouldn't since I'd feel nothing. This would apply for a human. If I had to kill another person in order to sustain my life in a me or them situation and I was on a mountain or somewhere else that required me to kill them and become a cannibal for some time. So thus i'll always eat meat as long as I live.

Gow · 08-20-2008, 07:26 PM

I would wager that some of that footage could be dated back to 80s / early 90s from the tape effect and age of the video.

I see some disinformation in their march to make more vegetarians.

Most people have pushed for places that they purchase meat from to support more humane killing and all of that was secondary to what they do to horses in Mexico since shutting down the Horse meat plants in the U.S.

Chopping them up while they are still alive is what they do as opposed to the unconscious desanguination technique that the U.S. employs.

"I hear the plants scream as you kill them." Usually the line I whip out when people tell I should be vegetarian like them. They often fail to catch the satirical humour that points out that we all kill things to live. Plants, Animals, Humans, whoever, whatever.

Bio-survival is what drives the existence of all living matter.

Only dead matter cares not for food.

SilentWalrus · 08-20-2008, 07:39 PM

I like my steak.
I know where it comes from.
I also have never seen a wild cow.

Atrocious · 08-20-2008, 08:12 PM

I'm not a vegetarian, and I never will be, unless by some rare course of events I cannot eat meat anymore. I hate PETA also. Natural Selection wins by default. Guess who's at the top? Man. Guess who does more suffering than animals. Man.

But I do love these kinds of videos because it will find the few places that in the US where this happens. At least we give these animals a purpose. Take cows for example, at least they serve a purpose such as giving milk or providing beef instead of just sitting there in a field eating plants which provides the world with the ever so useful carbon dioxide to oxygen exchange and releasing an extreme amount of methane gas, AKA farting, and destroying the Ozone Layer.

Maybe it's inhuman that I don't feel bad for animals like this, even though I can't hit a squirrel in my car without feeling terrible. Maybe it's because I know the slaughter house animals are serving a purpose.

Also, it's been proven, a vegetarian diet doesn't change the number of animals being killed. Being a vegetarian won't change a thing.

Weesnaw · 08-20-2008, 08:14 PM

Moral vegetarians can suck my hairiest ball dry. Their all hypocrites unless they made everything they own with their own too hands and grow their own food. They are usually pseudo-intellectuals trying to make themselves feel important by saying they "Limit the suffering" and such.

What should I say about the video? Kill them more humanely, that's all there is too it.

Trap757 · 08-20-2008, 08:24 PM

PETA ? People Eating Tastey Animals LOL but on the real i have seen videos like this most are preety messed up like one on youtube where a fox/dog got its skin ripped off while it was still live to not do damage to its fur . now that was sick but i feel for the animals .

KaJuN · 08-20-2008, 08:44 PM

The way I see it animals are grown for food just like crops and they have to be harvested differently.

Locke · 08-21-2008, 03:55 PM

People who raise and kill animals for a living are actually abusing them?! Blasphemy!

Exlax · 08-23-2008, 12:27 PM

Yea, it happens when your on top of the food chain.

bobbyeggo · 08-24-2008, 08:02 AM

I think it's a joke they want to make everyone a vegetarian. The world would be sickly overpopulated by animals.

Schmalzigan · 08-27-2008, 05:53 PM

I've done a bit of research about slaughterhouses (for a seventeen-page paper on the business ethics of the meatpacking industry), so I've seen these types of things before (not to mention read about them a ton). The killing of the animals doesn't upset me as much as how they're raised and then how they're killed.

We all know about the hormones and chemicals pumped into livestock to try to make them appear fatter and more desirable to consume. Some of us know that the feed that's used for the animals is comprised of filler, like alcohol grain, so, yeah, they'll fatten up quicker. But as far as feeding cows and chickens slop contaminated with feces and dead animal products -- not many folks are willing to accept or believe that right away.

Think about it: these animals eat food that contain bacteria like E. coli. The E. coli eventually spreads to other meat parts through cross-contamination of slaughterhouse knives. The bacteria lives in the meat and goes unkilled by the cold temperatures of the meatlockers. Some sous chef who is up to his ears in orders makes a mistake in the kitchen and slightly undercooks your filet mignon. Congratulations! You win the infection jackpot!

If you're going to kill a cow for food, do it right. I'm not a vegetarian, but I refuse to eat any meat that does not come from local farmers or smaller meatpackers (i.e., ones that aren't owned by Tyson Foods [which, along with ConAgra, Smithfield, and two other bigwigs, control over 90% of the meat market]).

Bah. I have issues with meat.

Shinigami. · 08-27-2008, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacrosse_man16

Yea, it happens when your on top of the food chain.

I think it's funny, we are on top of the food chain but we have so many fears of things that can and do kill us, Snakes, Spiders, many many insects, and animals.
Ironic I think.

SilentWalrus · 08-27-2008, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZuneNerd

I think it's funny, we are on top of the food chain but we have so many fears of things that can and do kill us, Snakes, Spiders, many many insects, and animals.
Ironic I think.

Yeah.
That's what a M4 Rifle is for.
And yes, I shoot spiders with rifles.

Shinigami. · 08-27-2008, 08:07 PM

Hey me too!
But I use the Dylan Minigun.

ProOne · 08-27-2008, 09:01 PM

As for the steaks on my dinner table: I know where they have spent their entire lives since I get all my beef from a member of my family who has a small farm (maybe 30 acres). He has at most 3 cows he breeds, then takes the offspring to a local place to be slaughtered. The slaughterhouse is extremely small and is a mom-and-pop operation.

As for the poultry, I once worked for a place that makes equipment to innoculate chickens before they hatch. (Otherwise, someone has to catch each chick to inject them with the necessary antibodies.) The technicians for this company would routinely go to large hatcheries and even processing plants for most, if not all, of the big poultry producers in the world. I never heard of any of them reporting anything like what's in the video. I was with this company for over five years and talked to every field technician on multiple occasions.

MadameMasenko · 09-25-2008, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentWalrus

Yeah.
That's what a M4 Rifle is for.
And yes, I shoot spiders with rifles.

I'd rather use colt pythons.....Irony.
Anyways
I think that animals are gonna die anyway....other animals cruely torture their animal prey....why the hell should we feel bad.
Its cruel to torture an animal if you are not gonna eat it or kill it but if its gonna die then no it not cruel at all.

08-19-2008, 10:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Neobeard Experienced Zuner Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 148 Reputation: 13	Animal Cruelty in Slaughterhouses Showed this video by a friend from another forum.. no i myself am not a vegetarian, but this opened my eyes.. My reaction was also written from a christian viewpoint. WARNING video does contain some very graphic material Prevent Animal Cruelty by Adopting a Vegetarian Diet \| ChooseVeg.com My comments on the video (it was a reply to a specific person in reaction to the video): Wow.. that was truly the first time i've ever been exposed to that kind of a video.. Very very disturbing and horrifying. I think what made it worse was the fact that those are every day "old mcdonald" farm animals.. its almost like brutalizing a pet in a sense. Now your wondering if you converted me to a vegetarian.. im going to say no.. maybe for the time being, mostly because i have a lot of relatives that were farmers and never treated the animals in such a way, that may be just a small minority but in the long run how is not eating meat helping to stop this? I am an avid hunter and enjoy it as a sport.. so naturally i eat the game i harvest. I'll still eat meat, but it won't be the same now.. cause i will wonder what happened to the animal who's meat this was.. It might just be naivety on the topic but i do belive that what that video showed was the VERY VERY WORST of the meat industry and that the vast majority of slaughterhouses/farms are humane.. God put the animals on the earth to provide us with food (which is what i belive, and why im not a vegetarian), im not saying there is anything wrong with being one.. in fact i support you and other vegetarians) but God didn't have this kind of treatment planned for his creations. I'd like to hear some of your thought's and views on this issue. Also state if your a vegetarian or not when you post. __________________ Thanks for teh siggy Stkr Last edited by Neobeard : 08-19-2008 at 10:20 PM.

08-19-2008, 10:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Shinigami. Resident zB Death God Retired Staff Expert Zuner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Next to Putis in Sexyland Posts: 3,486 Reputation: 787	I have seen stuff like that, its horrible, deplorable, and just plain gruesome. it is sad that people can just kill without remorse like that. no i am not a vegetarian, but i know where i get my food from. __________________ putis.

08-19-2008, 10:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
133794m3r Elite Zuner Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: On the interenet. Posts: 2,013 Reputation: 43	Well I'm not a vegetarian. And I've seen videos like that before. And although it's very cruel I don't think i'm going to stop eating meat any time soon. Since I don't really think about what's going into my meat when I eat it. I know how cruel they are to the animals that they kill. I just personally don't try to think about when I eat my food. I don't hunt any sort animals. Even though I don't, I still find the need to eat meat very high. I personally hold no comapassion for any sort of animals that i can't have as a pet. I do feel sorry for the animals in the testing areas. Mainly the cats, dogs, rabbits, and other household animals that i can actually hold and own as a pet. To the slaughter house animals I feel no compassion for them and thus I can say that if i had to, I could kill them myself. I'd find no reason why I wouldn't since I'd feel nothing. This would apply for a human. If I had to kill another person in order to sustain my life in a me or them situation and I was on a mountain or somewhere else that required me to kill them and become a cannibal for some time. So thus i'll always eat meat as long as I live. __________________ ZB Rednecks The best Nascar Racer and sponsor of Rednecks and newly Gay for ZB rednecks.

08-20-2008, 07:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Gow Archduke of the Garden Premium Member Section Staff Elite Zuner Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fort Wayne, IN, USA Posts: 2,239 Reputation: 804	I would wager that some of that footage could be dated back to 80s / early 90s from the tape effect and age of the video. I see some disinformation in their march to make more vegetarians. Most people have pushed for places that they purchase meat from to support more humane killing and all of that was secondary to what they do to horses in Mexico since shutting down the Horse meat plants in the U.S. Chopping them up while they are still alive is what they do as opposed to the unconscious desanguination technique that the U.S. employs. "I hear the plants scream as you kill them." Usually the line I whip out when people tell I should be vegetarian like them. They often fail to catch the satirical humour that points out that we all kill things to live. Plants, Animals, Humans, whoever, whatever. Bio-survival is what drives the existence of all living matter. Only dead matter cares not for food. __________________

08-20-2008, 07:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
SilentWalrus Large Walrus Support Team Jr. Staff Premium Member Elite Zuner Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 2,076 Reputation: 332	I like my steak. I know where it comes from. I also have never seen a wild cow. __________________ Thanks for the sig stkr. Giveaway of the Day

08-20-2008, 08:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
Atrocious Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 349 Reputation: 29	I'm not a vegetarian, and I never will be, unless by some rare course of events I cannot eat meat anymore. I hate PETA also. Natural Selection wins by default. Guess who's at the top? Man. Guess who does more suffering than animals. Man. But I do love these kinds of videos because it will find the few places that in the US where this happens. At least we give these animals a purpose. Take cows for example, at least they serve a purpose such as giving milk or providing beef instead of just sitting there in a field eating plants which provides the world with the ever so useful carbon dioxide to oxygen exchange and releasing an extreme amount of methane gas, AKA farting, and destroying the Ozone Layer. Maybe it's inhuman that I don't feel bad for animals like this, even though I can't hit a squirrel in my car without feeling terrible. Maybe it's because I know the slaughter house animals are serving a purpose. Also, it's been proven, a vegetarian diet doesn't change the number of animals being killed. Being a vegetarian won't change a thing. __________________ Last edited by Atrocious : 08-20-2008 at 08:19 PM.

08-20-2008, 08:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
Weesnaw Zuner Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 93 Reputation: 13	Moral vegetarians can suck my hairiest ball dry. Their all hypocrites unless they made everything they own with their own too hands and grow their own food. They are usually pseudo-intellectuals trying to make themselves feel important by saying they "Limit the suffering" and such. What should I say about the video? Kill them more humanely, that's all there is too it.

08-20-2008, 08:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Trap757 Experienced Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Location: In Da South Posts: 209 Reputation: 10	PETA ? People Eating Tastey Animals LOL but on the real i have seen videos like this most are preety messed up like one on youtube where a fox/dog got its skin ripped off while it was still live to not do damage to its fur . now that was sick but i feel for the animals . __________________ ''You look like a cholo on easter''. Knocked Up

08-20-2008, 08:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
KaJuN Experienced Zuner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 189 Reputation: 20	The way I see it animals are grown for food just like crops and they have to be harvested differently.

08-24-2008, 08:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
bobbyeggo Experienced Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, GA Posts: 203 Reputation: 15	I think it's a joke they want to make everyone a vegetarian. The world would be sickly overpopulated by animals. __________________

08-27-2008, 05:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
Schmalzigan Zewbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8 Reputation: 10	I've done a bit of research about slaughterhouses (for a seventeen-page paper on the business ethics of the meatpacking industry), so I've seen these types of things before (not to mention read about them a ton). The killing of the animals doesn't upset me as much as how they're raised and then how they're killed. We all know about the hormones and chemicals pumped into livestock to try to make them appear fatter and more desirable to consume. Some of us know that the feed that's used for the animals is comprised of filler, like alcohol grain, so, yeah, they'll fatten up quicker. But as far as feeding cows and chickens slop contaminated with feces and dead animal products -- not many folks are willing to accept or believe that right away. Think about it: these animals eat food that contain bacteria like E. coli. The E. coli eventually spreads to other meat parts through cross-contamination of slaughterhouse knives. The bacteria lives in the meat and goes unkilled by the cold temperatures of the meatlockers. Some sous chef who is up to his ears in orders makes a mistake in the kitchen and slightly undercooks your filet mignon. Congratulations! You win the infection jackpot! If you're going to kill a cow for food, do it right. I'm not a vegetarian, but I refuse to eat any meat that does not come from local farmers or smaller meatpackers (i.e., ones that aren't owned by Tyson Foods [which, along with ConAgra, Smithfield, and two other bigwigs, control over 90% of the meat market]). Bah. I have issues with meat. __________________ *No one fcks with the pirate LeChuck.**

08-27-2008, 08:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
Shinigami. Resident zB Death God Retired Staff Expert Zuner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Next to Putis in Sexyland Posts: 3,486 Reputation: 787	Hey me too! But I use the Dylan Minigun. __________________ putis.

08-27-2008, 09:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
ProOne Jr. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In my own little world Posts: 292 Reputation: 46	As for the steaks on my dinner table: I know where they have spent their entire lives since I get all my beef from a member of my family who has a small farm (maybe 30 acres). He has at most 3 cows he breeds, then takes the offspring to a local place to be slaughtered. The slaughterhouse is extremely small and is a mom-and-pop operation. As for the poultry, I once worked for a place that makes equipment to innoculate chickens before they hatch. (Otherwise, someone has to catch each chick to inject them with the necessary antibodies.) The technicians for this company would routinely go to large hatcheries and even processing plants for most, if not all, of the big poultry producers in the world. I never heard of any of them reporting anything like what's in the video. I was with this company for over five years and talked to every field technician on multiple occasions.

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