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View Poll Results: If you can/could vote, who would you chose?
Barack Obama 26 47.27%
Hillary Clinton 11 20.00%
John McCain 13 23.64%
Mike Huckabee 1 1.82%
Ron Paul 4 7.27%
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:25 PM   #61 (permalink)
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is it just me or does obama remind me of martin luther king?



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Old 03-07-2008, 09:30 PM   #62 (permalink)
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No way does he ever live up to Dr King. He is in no way standing up for freedoms of men to live as they wish free from separation by race.
He is a politician with the White House and personal gain in mind. Dr King was a revolutionary and a man who stood up for the freedoms and equality of blacks. He wanted living together to be reality.
Obama is nothing like him in my eyes. I have not seen one trait.
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:36 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I agree with you about the war and the we probably wont get out if Hilary is elected that quickly. But some other countries like France have Universal Health Care and if you seen a documentary by Michael Moore called sicko. He went to France and the doctors there were earned enough money to get by and some did even better then the doctors we have here.
Moore is also slanted and he omits so much that it is ridiculous. His movies are presented to push one side and one side only.
I can cut and edit and make a great movie showing facts to push an argument too.
All you have to do is google, or get other movies, or read rebuttals. His reality is not the whole reality.
People are not getting the quality health care they should get there. When potentially life threatening issues are pushed off by long lists because of that system...the basics of failure in the system begin to show.
I would love nothing more than everyone to have health care, but I will not agree to work so others can live like crap, smoke, do drugs, and whatever else on my tab.
I also do not think that gov is our answer since we are supposed to run it. Big mommy government please give me a hand out. I do not want to work hard for it. Take care of me....No thanks. I work hard. But I do not work hard so others do not have to.
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:05 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Offtopic: Was it him that tried to bring Fidel Castro to the grammys or something?



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Old 03-08-2008, 08:11 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I do not remember that. I do remember that his own Foreign Policy Adviser said that Hillary never had to answer "the red phone" at 3am and that she is not qualified to do so. Then she fouls up big time by saying NEITHER of them are qualified to answer that phone call haha.
Man, she screwed her boss over big time with that statement.
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:22 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Offtopic: Was it him that tried to bring Fidel Castro to the grammys or something?
Most Likely No: It was either an Musician or Actor or Michael Moore....
Obama isn't one of them; and I believe that man may have other plans that he doesn't want us to know
i.e....that Canadian thing that said that they and Obama had different plans behind closed doors about NAFTA I think...
And its really funny how some guy who is from the tough streets from Chicago seems to not want to get his hands dirty and fight defending himself as CNN puts it. But he is trying to have some clean and fair politics.
Hillary Clinton is a drama starter and possibly finisher as well as a fighter
Thats how you handle things being a Commander and Chief
Thats the bad bitch boss I like to have pick up that red phone ready to curse A trick out instead of Obama that will likely end a conversation that says "I Wanna hug you" in educational and professional words.
Thats the change that I want.
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Old 03-09-2008, 05:39 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I thought Obama went to school in one of the finest school in Hawaii.



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I thought Obama went to school in one of the finest school in Hawaii.
How about instead of you thinking, have Google do it for you.
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Old 03-09-2008, 06:01 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Yeah I saw he went to school in Indonesia and Hawaii



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I am a republican and would support McCain (as the lesser of two evils -- whether it be Obama or Clinton). But if a dem were to be the next President, I would support Obama over (by a HUGE margin) Hillary.

Personally, I think Obama is quite a breath of fresh air, but I worry about his somewhat questionable voting history and hyper liberal stance on some issues.



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Obama is better than Hillary, but he's still evil. When given the choice. I choose the least evil. OBAMA!
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:30 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Most Likely No: It was either an Musician or Actor or Michael Moore....
Obama isn't one of them; and I believe that man may have other plans that he doesn't want us to know
i.e....that Canadian thing that said that they and Obama had different plans behind closed doors about NAFTA I think...
And its really funny how some guy who is from the tough streets from Chicago seems to not want to get his hands dirty and fight defending himself as CNN puts it. But he is trying to have some clean and fair politics.
Hillary Clinton is a drama starter and possibly finisher as well as a fighter
Thats how you handle things being a Commander and Chief
Thats the bad bitch boss I like to have pick up that red phone ready to curse A trick out instead of Obama that will likely end a conversation that says "I Wanna hug you" in educational and professional words.
Thats the change that I want.
Hillary Clinton is a worthless, America-ending, selfish bitch.

http://digg.com/search?section=all&s=clinton

Read some of the titles there, and you'll see how stupid you are to support her. She's a ****ing liar.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:33 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Remember friends...CNN stand for the Clinton News Network.
In any case, I think all of them want the best but they all have jacked up ways of getting there in which I think can harm us in the long run and degrade us to a lower level of freedom...if we can call it that then.
Can I vote for The Brain?
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Old 04-03-2008, 04:02 PM   #74 (permalink)
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I'm with McCain because I'm a Republican; however I wouldn't mind if Obama won.

But if Clinton wins, Im moving to Canada.



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Old 04-06-2008, 12:03 AM   #75 (permalink)
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I'm with McCain because I'm a Republican; however I wouldn't mind if Obama won.

But if Clinton wins, Im moving to Canada.
I am one of the people who believe people like George Bush KNEW that there were going to be terrorist attacks on 9/11. I think he let it happen so he could make the Patriot Act, Department of Homeland Security, and everything else he has done to control the country. I mean, look around. There is no more free speech, he's vetoed most of the constitution, and we have no privacy. The DoHS if you remember, invaded a guy's home and took EVERYTHING except his computer monitor and his car, and he had to live in it for 3 months.

It wasn't because of a terrorist attack either. Nope. Something worse. They suspected he modded his Xbox 360. Anyone who goes to Xbox 360 Fanboy or XboxScene probably saw the article.

To the point, Bush didn't need to send soldiers into Iraq. Congress wouldn't let him declare war so he paid to send them in there instead, and has used this "terror" threat to make laws that are unconstitutional. McCain believes in the war, which means that if he was elected then he could do the same thing Bush has done. Besides, on the news(I THINK Fox) a few weeks ago they showed Bush giving 1000% support for McCain, saying he has a heart for those who need help, and other BS.

McCain is just another Bush waiting to happen. I support Ron Paul, but since he didn't win with enough votes, Obama. Obama has stated he will review and remove any law George Bush has made that is unconstitutional, which is what we need. No more stupid, evil jackasses raping our rights just to control everything.

Clinton is a self-centered, ugly bitch. McCain is George Bush with a different name, Ron Paul didn't win, so Obama FTW.

For more reasons on why Clinton is a ****ing bitch, who lies to the American voters thinking we are all stupid, please click on the link in my sig.

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I'm not saying 9/11 was an inside job, but it might as well have been. Those assholes Bush and Dick exploited it to gain control of the country. You can tell how much Dick cares when he said "**** you" to all Americans and says that the 4,000 dead soldiers in Iraq volunteered to go there, despite people having to be REDEPLOYED because not enough people are going. He has been preparing for an economic collapse as well, he has LIED to the American people.
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I'm not saying 9/11 was an inside job, but it might as well have been. Those assholes Bush and Dick exploited it to gain control of the country. You can tell how much Dick cares when he said "**** you" to all Americans and says that the 4,000 dead soldiers in Iraq volunteered to go there, despite people having to be REDEPLOYED because not enough people are going. He has been preparing for an economic collapse as well, he has LIED to the American people.
Well why am I hearing this about Dick just now?
When did he say this?
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justs anyone but Hillary Clinton or Ron Paul there just crazy so the most reasonable would be Obama or McCain



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We need someone who can unite the country. I believe either Obama or McCain could do this. However, considering the fact that Obama is an excellent speaker and has strong support from Independents and some Republicans, I believe he could do a better job. McCain's strong support for the War in Iraq connects him with Bush, who is of course one of the most divisive Presidents in the history of the US. That's a bad thing. Only united as a country can we solve all the problems that we face today.



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well im not gonna vote becaussssse i lost my left leg because an idiot known as bush(u useless moron) sent me to war for what oil what do you think the next liar will want to fight for next???
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