Assisted Suicide

[thresixty]

Should it be allowed? Is suicide appropriate at all in any situations? Give me your opinions.

*partly inspired by nathan cuz hes gonna suicide in 3 years supposedly

[Gregory]

No, it is not acceptable in any case. I make exceptions only to terrorists.

[Dizzy]

I think it should be up to the family.

[Deiparous]

It's only Okay if by doing it, you save the lives of 100 people. In 99.9999999999% of situations it is immoral

Originally Posted by Gregory

I make exceptions only to terrorists.

I mean this in the best possible way, wtf? It's OK for terrorists to commit suicide? So suicide bombers are OK?

[thresixty]

what if the person is perfectly concious and in a good state of mind, and have requested to be "put down". And its like a situation where there's no cure, and they endure pain everyday. Would it be alrite then?

[Trogdor's lame friend]

I think if after intense therapy, the person still wants to go through with the suicide, and wants to di it in a way that will have the smallest effect on the people around them, then Yes, it can be a good thing. This isn't to say I'm for taking people's lives, but if their adamant about, doing it this way would be the best.

It's better than someone hijacking a plane, or shooting up a mall is what I'm trying to say.

[Deiparous]

Originally Posted by thresixty

what if the person is perfectly concious and in a good state of mind, and have requested to be "put down". And its like a situation where there's no cure, and they endure pain everyday. Would it be alrite then?

No, that's called being weak.

[Trogdor's lame friend]

Weak? For all you know they're living a perpetual hell, and you want to keep them alive? Do you have no pity for these people? If they want to take their life, and the family agrees with it, then I say it should seriously be considered

[musicfreek13579455]

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my friend was battling with cancer
and she got to a point where everything in her body was failing
but they kept her on machines and tons of meds to keep her alive
she was supposed to have passed a long time ago

but just recently she decided to stop taking her meds and stop the treatment. she got a choice.
they still helped take away the pain. but her body eventually failed.

i think in a situation like that...its fine.
she knew she was going to die.
she didnt want to sit in the bed for another 5 months.

[asuro]

suicide is never apropriate. ppl who commit suicide are probobaly not thinking straight and i feel really bad for them and they should not be allowed to kill themselves. nothing is worth taking ur life over because u dont know how it would turn out in the end otherwise. people should try doing whatever they can to stop other people from commiting suicide.

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Originally Posted by musicfreek13579455

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my friend was battling with cancer
and she got to a point where everything in her body was failing
but they kept her on machines and tons of meds to keep her alive
she was supposed to have passed a long time ago

but just recently she decided to stop taking her meds and stop the treatment. she got a choice.
they still helped take away the pain. but her body eventually failed.

i think in a situation like that...its fine.
she knew she was going to die.
she didnt want to sit in the bed for another 5 months.

thats not really suicide thats just letting nature takes its course i think. ur freind did not kill herself she instead was pretty brave and just didnt want to live on machines and medications and let the disease takes its natural course. she did not kill herself, she merely did not want her death to be put off by artificial means

[Gregory]

No, only if they kill themselves, not other people.

Originally Posted by Nurta

I mean this in the best possible way, wtf? It's OK for terrorists to commit suicide? So suicide bombers are OK?

That should not be allowed.

Originally Posted by thresixty

what if the person is perfectly concious and in a good state of mind, and have requested to be "put down". And its like a situation where there's no cure, and they endure pain everyday. Would it be alrite then?

[Deiparous]

Originally Posted by Saline

Weak? For all you know they're living a perpetual hell, and you want to keep them alive? Do you have no pity for these people? If they want to take their life, and the family agrees with it, then I say it should seriously be considered

Giving in to pain is weakness. I didn't say it isn't pitiable and I didn't say the family shouldn't want them to be able to give in. And I didn't say they shouldn't let the disease kill them, but killing yourself is not moral in even this case.

[asuro]

Originally Posted by Nurta

Giving in to pain is weakness. I didn't say it isn't pitiable and I didn't say the family shouldn't want them to be able to give in. And I didn't say they shouldn't let the disease kill them, but killing yourself is not moral in even this case.

i agree about the weakness thing. also a family shouldn't support suicide, if anything a family should try to prevent it and comfort the one who is contemplating it.

[Gow616]

Originally Posted by Nurta

It's only Okay if by doing it, you save the lives of 100 people. In 99.9999999999% of situations it is immoral

Eliminates duds from the gene pool in my opinion but I am a dark morbid arsehole...

Most of that 99.99999999% of the time its suicide over something that can be changed.

Terrorists commit homicide not suicide...an extremely deplorable act either way.

[killpineapple]

if people want to make their own choice and die, that who are we to take that freedom from them?

on a side note, why do we give people sentences of life in prison? does it do good for someone to live life in prison when instead we could put them down (like we do with bad dogs) and save me a buttload of tax money every year?

[Azraelw3x]

I think euthanasia should be allowed, but only in very specific cases. I believe decisions should be reached by panels of ethicists and medical experts, who can determine whether euthanasia would be considered acceptable. While I don't condone suicide, I have worked in hospitals with terminally ill patients, and my own father died from cancer three years ago. I know what kinds of things people go through, and I can't in good conscience say completely forbidding euthanasia is a morally right thing to do. The purpose of medicine is to heal and improve people's lives - not to prolong suffering. I see euthanasia (in the cases in which I believe it justifiable) as an extension of practices already in place regarding ending life support, honoring non-resuscitation orders, etc.

Again, I only support euthanasia in very specific cases where it is clear that the patient is suffering, treatment will not cure him/her or prolong his/her life in a useful way, and the patient is not affected by dementia/psychoactive drugs/other impairments of judgment. Each case needs to be reviewed independently, and only by explicit request.

Originally Posted by killpineapple

if people want to make their own choice and die, that who are we to take that freedom from them?

on a side note, why do we give people sentences of life in prison? does it do good for someone to live life in prison when instead we could put them down (like we do with bad dogs) and save me a buttload of tax money every year?

There are many problems with death sentences - ethical concerns, injustice of application (innocent victims, racial biases, differing punishments for identical crimes, etc.), problems with the executions themselves, and many many more. Additionally, each execution is actually very costly - even more so in some senses than life imprisonments. http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/COcosttestimony.pdf

Additionally, I personally believe it more just to institute life sentences in solitary confinement as a punishment - doing so forces the prisoner to face the consequences of his actions for the rest of his life, and of course can be undone if evidence proves him innocent after incarceration - you can't bring back the dead with an apology.

[Jon]

I say that suicide is completely unacceptable. It is a sin and deserves eternal damnation in hell.

[Deiparous]

Originally Posted by Jon

I say that suicide is completely unacceptable. It is a sin and deserves eternal damnation in hell.

If you're going to argue from Christianity, who are you to say what deserves damnation? That is God's choice, not yours. Seems to me God hates people who don't respect his authority most of all.