Unsure who to vote for?

[Kryren]

Very nice find with the chart there. I'm voting for Obama but I won't mind if Clinton wins. Obama seems to be the better speaker all around, but Clinton's has White House experience. And, no, her husband wasn't a horrible president. The scandal aside, he did a good job working with congress to run this country. He couldbe very valuable to his wife were she to take office.

[Gow616]

Originally Posted by Marshillboy

OK, let me just say one little thing.

HOLY CRAP, people. Seriously, you all are acting like a bunch of nine year olds arguing over whether they think the lead singer of green day or my chemical romance is the hottest. Thanks to you jerks, you managed to turn a "serious discussion" post into a cess pool full of a bunch of whiny babies who think arguing will make things that much better. I don't know if it was too much effort to look at what forum this was in (probably was for most of you), but, yes, believe it or not, this is not the flame board, but serious discussion

congratu-frickin-lations, people, bravo.

Agreed, if they can't get their act together and debate properly the next post they do will suffer for it. As it is, they are walking on thin ice with me on this thread.

Obama looks like a better choice especially since Romney suspended his campaign today. McCain just doesn't sit well with me but I will keep considering him as well and Clinton...well we just don't need another Clinton after Bush is all I will type about that.

This is all my personal stuff, other people with different views will vote how they think and feel. They will vote for the candidate that will be best for them.

Important thing to note is that all this information will only apply to people who are U.S. Citizens and of voting age (18). It is interesting to also note that most of the ones that are causing problems in this thread are not of voting age.

[Jon]

I'm just for Democrats!

[mangodroplet]

well, really, the question is, who can probably get the most votes?
I say Obama, for the mere fact that he has appeal. Also, Clinton is probably as far as she can get, voter wise. Also, since we all know for a fact that McCain will get the republican nomination, I think it will be a more interesting race between Obama and McCain. It will be a battle of ages.

Personally, I don't like McCain too much; all he knows about is war, and really, I want a timed withdrawal out. Also, He's a bit old....I wonder how he'll hold up :\

Also, I was rooting more for Romney, since he actually has experience leading (i.e. him being a governor) while McCain has had no such experience. :|

[killpineapple]

how come none of the Libertarian candidates are on there? not saying they're perfect either, but i respect them more than most of these guys. gotta give Ron Paul some credit though

[Gow616]

Originally Posted by Jon

I'm just for Democrats!

That is a silly notion. That is like people stating "I'm just for Republicans", or "I'm just for Coca-Cola", et cetera. One has to look at the issues from both sides to come to a consensus on where you stand. Listening to one side of an argument is tantamount to brainwashing.

Maybe it is because I am a Libertarian and learned over the years that Democrats = Republicans except for a less than 2% difference.

Our country does need a third party in the system like the days of when the Republican party was new. There were the Whigs, Democrats and Republicans and despite the problem issue of the time there was less worry about corrupt officials. Now with only two parties they can keep we, the people, lockstep to their motives by just shooting us back and forth between them.

Yet, to get the majority of the American people to even consider this is like asking them to cut an arm off because they believe so hard that our Nation was founded on a Two Party system and anything other than it will bring about unparalleled chaos.

Withdrawal is the only thing I don't agree upon because the last time the U.S. withdrew like in Vietnam, we ended up with Pol Pot and more dead Asians than while we there. Iraq was the same way, we ended up with more dead Kurds and Chaldeans than number of enemy combatants killed. American Pacifism kills more lives than it saves but hey...those people aren't American so who cares, right?

Sorry, I believe in the Special Forces motto "De Oppresso Liber" (To Free the Oppressed). After all, we are the only country in the world who has fought for all these other countries and only took enough land to bury our dead. We never conquered and added territory to our own despite populist opinion. Germany, Italy and Japan have not given territory to the U.S. after their defeat in World War 2. The U.S. did not take land from Korea outside of Military bases established to help defend the South from the North and China. No land has been taken from Iraq despite the media's view.

Abandoning my Kurdish and Chaldean friends to the dogs is just not the right thing to do. If you believe the U.S. is an occupying force there than damn it we should stay, occupy and protect the people. The insurgents are at least 80% foreign nationals seeking to play themselves off as Iraqi. If you believe we should never had messed with Saddam, please, please, please tell this fact to a Kurd or Chaldean, especially a Chaldean. After all their people only numbered in the 100,000 and thanks to that person who should have never been attacked they number in 10,000... I guess its alright since they aren't American.

If you believe it was all done for Oil, please, please, tell that to a Kurd or how about instead figure out where that oil has gone or even why Oil prices are rising since the U.S. seems to be taking the oil, right?

Rising fuel prices have nothing to do with Iraq, after all two little insignificant countries such as China and India using more Oil could have nothing to do with it.

Take a step back from the media and educate yourself first and foremost. Look at both sides of an argument and realize that it is time for REAL change and only by all standing together can it be achieved.

My argument is finished at the moment because I have a class to go to.

[MemphisMasenko]

Originally Posted by Jon

I don't know guys. I'm for Obama. In my humble opinion, I think Clinton is only telling the people what they want to hear, not what they need to hear.

What do Clinton supporters like me need to hear?
I wanna know.

Originally Posted by lpxxfaintxx

What makes you say that? Clinton and Obama's beliefs are very similar. Obama seems to be stronger emotionally as well. I'm not a sexist or anything, but I don't think Clinton is ready to take on the job, especially since America's future does not look too bright at this rate.

Obama seems to be stronger emotionally?????
I might as well say this. For this comment I gonna have to say this cause I see it as this:
You might as well be voting for the person who I believe is pulling the strings to this puppet:
Oprah Winfrey; now who is stronger emotionally.

Originally Posted by The Original Post Slut: Nathanlawliet

Now.. I have lost all faith in you. You say the one thing I never wanted to hear, you say the one thing that is almost as stupid as my mom.
You betrayer.
Clinton is the WORST. She's exactly like President Bush("Every nation should be with us or against us") and cries when she doesn't get what she wants. The first Clinton was bad, we don't need another.
Bush 1 was bad, Bush 2 was bad.
Clinton 1 was bad, Clinton 2 won't be bad because that ****ing whore won't win.
Ron Paul.. Is the best. That chart just puts him as the worst so people won't vote for him, but there is a REASON they censor him on Fox News.
He'll give people back their rights and prevent the country from being totalinarian. Now that everyone looks at Clinton as the best.. the members of ZuneBoards fail me.

You make absolutely no sense.
You obviously don't know what you are talking about so don't be mad when no one takes you seriously.
Not only do you fail in the eyes of the members of ZuneBoards, you fail yourself and possibly life itself.

Originally Posted by The Original Post Slut: Nathanlawliet

Hillary Clinton.
AKA, Woman Who If She Becomes President Will Cause My Suicide
****ing crybaby.. "Oh.. Why can't you guys just let me send more people into Iraq? - cries - Why can't I have my way?"

This just rests my case.
Imaginary quotes that Hillary said as well.


I would also like to add to my resonse to Mr. LPX comment that I feel that not only would a vote for Obama would be for Oprah, but as well as Rev. Jesse Jackson and most likely Rev. Al Sharpton as well. Thus creating, in my view, the saying of "We As Americans" with the meaning of "We As African-Americans" representing all americans who count.

-----but as an African-American female herself who as CNN would project and assume that I would vote for Barack Obama, just simply does not understand where Obama is commin' from. I heard one lady call up a radio station sayin' that she voted for Obama on super tuesday because he was black and he gonna take us somewhere.
Typical of black folks, clickin' and groupin' to "survive". I don't want to have any part of that.
I support Hillary Clinton regardless.

And on the republican side of this, I don't get how most reps support Romney and then turn around and no one but the mid-west vote for him. Thats really crazy to me and then complain about him droppin' out.
But I kinda see why people would support McCain because he seems to me like the most independent republican.
If he was such a backstabber then why would he have states support that would put him leagues ahead.
And I went on Mike Huckabees' site today and he really doesn't have a plan for anything except this war in Iraq. The other issues that he faces he just basically said let the states handle it and the energy one just really shows how much he doesn't care when his plan about energy just basically says don't expect anything from me untill the end of my second term in office. Huckabee offers nothing new, the reincarnation of W. Bush, in which I see it as voting for him is like electing W. Bush for a third term.
Republicans really don't make sense to me right now.

But I love CNN politics cause its fair as well as look good .
I try to watch all those shows
Anderson Cooper 360
Glenn Beck bastard ass
all those shows.