Honestly, it's not up to anyone but the two making the commitment. If some bastard doesn't want to marry them because he thinks he can tell people they can't marry, then he's a ****ing idiot with a god complex. Guess what? The people will go find another way, even if it isn't recognized by anyone but themselves.
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1. Homosexuality IS very much a sin, if you want to go with the religious argument.
2. It does involve sodomy. In fact, it requires sodomy (between men).
Saying an apple isn't an apple doesn't make it truth.
it won't bother me unless someone tries to make it bother me then it will be them bothering me. Yes I believe it is a sin to do so but if i am quick to judge the same judgement will be forced upon myself. These people wouldnt get rocks thrown at them by Christ so represent him if you believe it is a sinful act. Hate the sin not the person.
I say what ever you do in bed is your business. And who ever you want to be legally binded to is your business to also.
I do, however, do not believe society should contribute to, or give the same benefits to gay marriage as it does to heterosexual marriages for the simple reason that society does not benefit from gay marriage as it does from traditional marriages, especially in one fundamental way.
Gay marriages do not procreate
That said, I don't have a problem with it. It's just when homosexuals want the same benefits is where I start drawing the line....
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Better contraceptives will control population only if people will use them. A nuclear holocaust can be prevented only if the conditions under which nations make war can be changed. The environment will continue to deteriorate until pollution practices are abandoned. We need to make vast changes in human behavior. B.F. Skinner
Who says that is a disadvantage of gay marriage? That they do not produce offspring can be said to be a good aspect of homosexual marriages in that in alot of ways, we are reaching a period of over population. While that can be argued, to say that procreating is good as a blanket statement isn't all that accurate.
Who says that is a disadvantage of gay marriage? That they do not produce offspring can be said to be a good aspect of homosexual marriages in that in alot of ways, we are reaching a period of over population. While that can be argued, to say that procreating is good as a blanket statement isn't all that accurate.
Then if not procreating is an advantage, then let's give single non-couples all the same benefits of married couples!
I never said gay marriage's inability to procreate was a disadvantage OF gay marriage. That is a fundamental truth. My point was they COULD get married. But a heterosexual union offers a primal benefit to the human race; the continuance of it. There's no way around that. And for that reason, traditional unions should be offered benefits in return. Homosexual marriages may benefit society in many ways also, but when it all comes down to the bare root of existence, it cannot produce. Thus I would not favor giving the same benefits to gay marriage as heterosexuals. Now am I say no benefits should go to homosexual unions? No. But to be equal to heterosexual unions - they are not.
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I don't have any problems with gay marriage. If two people truly Love each other, I think they have just as much right to enter into marriage as anyone else. I believe homosexuality is something genetically encoded into a person and isn't something chosen at some point in their life. I don't remember choosing to be attracted to woman... It seems like people who have insecurities with themselves, are usually the ones against things like this. We already live in a world filled with hate and discrimination, Why not allow some people a chance at happiness.
Damnit....if procreating is so damn necessary for a marriage then how come heterosexual couples can be married even when the woman in the marriage has ovarian cancer or something of that nature where she is unable to produce offsprings? So, no you don't need to procreate in order to have a "true" marriage. *dick*
And also, that encoded in DNA is bull****...I can change right now from ****en ass to ****en ***** so no........its not. It's like our sexuality is neutral at birth and something in your life changes you that causes you to "want" to be with the same-sex or w/e the same way that.......[something else happens]....(that I can't think of right now).
So, like boo! Cannabis + Hydrocodone ftw and like **** the world!
Why? b/c the parts match up my little friend, and what I believed he meant to say about must have offspring, is that you must have the counterparts to have children as in a penis and a vagina not even a fertile one just the correct parts to of possibly had a child.
BTW: Hydrocodone is for pussies and fags like yourself!
I'm all for gay marriage. I have several gay friends, both male and female, and I see no reason why they cannot get married just like I can.
Ok, so the bible says that homosexuality is wrong? Then ban Atheists and other non Christians from marrying too.
Homosexuals cannot procreate. As Nurta said, We are overpopulated. Straight couples should probably hold off on the kids. And who is to say that homosexuality isn't a biological way of population control? Along the same vein, would you take away legal rights of straight couples who are not capable of having children (say, the woman is barren or the male is "shooting blanks")?
And yes, homosexuals flaunt their relationships. But so do straight people.
Damnit....if procreating is so damn necessary for a marriage then how come heterosexual couples can be married even when the woman in the marriage has ovarian cancer or something of that nature where she is unable to produce offsprings? So, no you don't need to procreate in order to have a "true" marriage. *dick*
And also, that encoded in DNA is bull****...I can change right now from ****en ass to ****en ***** so no........its not. It's like our sexuality is neutral at birth and something in your life changes you that causes you to "want" to be with the same-sex or w/e the same way that.......[something else happens]....(that I can't think of right now).
well not neutral, but malleable
i'd say 9 out of 10 gays are likely the result of life experiences causing them to wind up in that state of mind. you know the ones i'm talking about, the queens, the ones who act all feminine, who talk with a lisp and pretend to be girls. why is this not something biological? BECAUSE FEMININITY IS A PRODUCT OF SOCIETY, NOT SOMETHING IN YOUR DNA. Women aren't born being feminine, so how can a gay guy claim he's "a woman trapped in a mans body"? that's. BS and just a lame excuse for what is really a societal influence on their psyche
i'll say maybe 1% of the population is legitimately homosexual. there is no way that 10% (the generally accepted figure) of the population suffers from such a massive birth defect
I know what you mean man........like what though? Who still does the feminine thingy? like act like a bitch.......well im so bored right now.......omg itz like i just seen a flash of wordz in front of me.........im going back 2 irc ****en freaky in here or something.
From a non biblical sense it is just wrong. What I meant earlier by "Parts" since you wanna play dumbass with me is Penis+Penis does not equal intercourse since there is no way you can shove a penis in a penis, you can however put one in a vagina, and now what was this bull**** about you saying since people cant have children for natural reasons (As in Male + Female) that homosexuality is ok? That makes no ****ing sense! Who really gives a flying **** if you have kids or not, some people just don't like kids straight up. Your argument makes no sense, and what exactly makes you not want to **** a girl in the ass? they do have them too you know and vaginas and a mouth. So thats the best of all worlds all a gay man can offer is his ******* and his mouth. The only reason I could think of somebody going gay is that they think they are hott ****, but in reality are ugly as **** so no opposite sex person is going to be good looking enough to what you consider equal to your standards.
here's one: why are there so many bull-dykes out there?
coincidence that so many fugly women go butch and becomes lesbians because of biology? no, more likely they could never get action from men but found acceptance from lesbians so they adapted and joined that clique instead
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