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Old 09-13-2008, 09:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is a good idea.
I also think we need a Gen 3 Zune forum as well.
The quote says it all. Time to add Gen 3 along with with all our Gen 1 and 2 forums.



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Old 09-13-2008, 11:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Except that it sounds like the Gen 3 hardware is identical to the Gen 2, except for colors and glossiness. Maybe it would be more appropriate to rename the Gen 2 forums to Gen 2/3.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Except that it sounds like the Gen 3 hardware is identical to the Gen 2, except for colors and glossiness. Maybe it would be more appropriate to rename the Gen 2 forums to Gen 2/3.
I'd have to agree.
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Old 09-13-2008, 01:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Very true, you have a point there Truck.
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Old 09-13-2008, 02:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah, a whole new forums is pretty unnecessary.



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Old 09-13-2008, 02:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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As far as I'm aware Zune 120 is considered second generation
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Old 09-13-2008, 02:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Actually, I agree with the Gen 3 forums.

Gen 1 - Zune 30's, old firmware
Gen 2 - Zune 80's, current, but soon to be old firmware
Gen 3 - Zune 120, upcoming firmware.

Granted, the hardware is pretty much the same, there will be a major software and firmware change. New software + new firmware + semi-new hardware = new section.
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Old 09-13-2008, 02:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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But if the Zune 80's will be running the same exact firmware, will there really be a need to separate them? I mean, the only difference is the size of the harddrive and the color-scheme.
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yes. There is a need to seperate them.
By stkr's logic we should have one big giant forum, because the firmware is all the same.
I agree that the 30 and 80 are different. But the 120 and 80 are different. They are going to have different problems.
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Old 09-13-2008, 04:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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'By my logic'? . Please, 'one big giant forum' doesn't even make sense. We're obviously excluding first generation devices. If the hardware is the same and they're running the same firmware, then the devices will likely have the same problems. But, this is not something I'm going to keep debating over.
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Old 09-13-2008, 04:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree with adding the forum.

Also, I thought this was a bit interesting: Zune Thoughts: Third Gen Zune Not Coming Until 2009? Nah, Can't Be!

Not exact, but pretty darn close.

EDIT: The hardware might look the same, but maybe they are using different parts that are similar, but potentially more defective or something.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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But are the 80 and the 120 different or is it just the hard drive? 80 had some major differences from the 30.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The reason most places list the Zune 120 as Gen 2 is because there is no hardware change whatsoever besides the harddrive. They are running the exact same firmware with the same hardware. We seperated G2 from G1 because the firmware is different and the hardware is different.

Wikipedia agrees with me, and no sites list the generation for the 120 even though I think it did when it first got put up early and it said Gen 2.

The new Zunes and the new firmware are pretty much unrelated. If this were like Gen 2, they'd have been announced and released together. We have 2 Generations of Zune and we're on firmware 3.0
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:53 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The reason most places list the Zune 120 as Gen 2 is because there is no hardware change whatsoever besides the hardware. They are running the exact same firmware with the same hardware. We seperated G2 from G1 because the firmware is different and the hardware is different.
Umm.. what??
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Umm.. what??
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Yes, but the 2nd gen firmware and software and the "3rd gen" firmware and software will be different. I think we should make a subforum under 2nd gen, for the 120's and 2nd gen flash zunes.
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:06 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Yes, but the 2nd gen firmware and software and the "3rd gen" firmware and software will be different. I think we should make a subforum under 2nd gen, for the 120's and 2nd gen flash zunes.
By that logic, everyone using v2 of the Zune software/firmware on a Zune 30 should be posting in the Gen 2 forums. Once v3 of the software/firmwa