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Old 08-17-2009, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WHITEHOUSE, TX (KLTV) - The school year is almost here, and if literature of the Bible is not already offered in your child's school, it will be this fall.

Books are a common sight in classrooms around the nation, but the Bible is one book that is not. Come this fall, a Texas law says all public schools must offer information relating to the Bible in their curriculum.

"By the end of the year, what they begin to realize is that it is pervasive. You can't get away from it. The kids came back and were like 'It's everywhere,'" said John Keeling, the social studies chair at Whitehouse High School. Whitehouse already offers a Bible elective. "The purpose of a course like this isn't even really to get kids to believe it, per se, it is just to appreciate the profound impact that it has had on our history and on our government."

The law actually passed in 2007, but this will be the first school year it is enforced because the bill says, "The provisions of this act pertaining to a school district do not take effect until the 2009-2010 school year."

This has gained mixed reactions from East Texans.

"I think it is a good thing because a lot of kids don't have that experience, and they already want to take prayer out of school as it is, and you see where our kids are ending up!" said Tyler resident Laura Tucker.

Tyler resident, Havis Tatum, disagrees with Tucker.

"I don't want anybody teaching their religious beliefs to my child unless they want to send their child to my house and let me teach them my religious views," said Tatum. "There is no difference."

School officials said schools have not enforced the law because of confusion over the bill's wording and lack of state funding.

For now, each school district must find a way to fill the requirement before the seats are filled with students.

We would like to know what you think about this story. Click here to leave your comments and read the contents of Texas House Bill 1287.
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I thought this might deserve a serious discussion. Thoughts about teaching the bible in school. According to the article, they're only teaching how the bible impacted society and whatnot, but yeah...
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Trying to push their religion much.

Mommy! Mr.Dick Told me if I don't read the bible I am going to burn for all eternity in Hell.

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And also If the bible needs to be in school what about other holy texts? and if they allow other holy texts then what if people try and compare them?
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I suppose that it would be fine if it were purely for the purposes that they said, but it definitely should not be a required class. That would just be, as most would call it, shoving their religion down other peoples' throats.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This isn't the first time Texas has pushed Christianity
George W Bush when governor of Texas established Jesus Day
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Are they going to teach the Quran, as well? <ducks>
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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This isn't the first time Texas has pushed Christianity
George W Bush when governor of Texas established Jesus Day
Holy crap!







I didn't know that George W. Bush could write!

In all seriousness, though, if there is a law that requires schools to offer courses about one religious text and its significance, there should be other laws for other religious texts. In fact, it would be better to simply have one class for the significance of all such writings.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Are they going to teach the Quran, as well? <ducks>
I was just going to ask that.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey, evolution is shoved down the throats of students all around the US and nobody's making a big deal out of that. If I read the article correctly, it says "information relating to the Bible in their curriculum", meaning that merely elements of Biblical teaching are present, not completely redoing the curriculum entirely. If anything, it's diversifying the teaching currently present.
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Meh the bible is a good source of teaching for morals and good vs. bad. That being said is it should be used to teach children declare it as fiction and denounce it as a religious text. I would not like my children being brought up ass backwards in a science society saying angels fly around and an invisible man solves everything. Religion is what makes the bible a crutch, religion is what makes the bible bad.
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Hey, evolution is shoved down the throats of students all around the US and nobody's making a big deal out of that.
I don't see the similarity.
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hey, evolution is shoved down the throats of students all around the US and nobody's making a big deal out of that. If I read the article correctly, it says "information relating to the Bible in their curriculum", meaning that merely elements of Biblical teaching are present, not completely redoing the curriculum entirely. If anything, it's diversifying the teaching currently present.
That's because Secular Humanism is the state religion, more or less.

As far as teaching the Bible in literature classes, the Bible has merits in that area that extend beyond the teachings. It's a historical text. Any historical, religious text should be allowed to be taught in public schools if the purpose is not to study the message, but how and why the message is delivered. The Illiad and the Odyssey are religious texts told from a historical perspective. That's no different from many, many parts of the Bible, specifically any of the historical books or the Gospels. Both of Homer's works are staples in many high school literature curriculum, but you don't see people complaining that their son or daughter is about to start worshiping Zeus. There's already a precedent here, people just ignore it because they don't want the Bible in schools. Some say "well those are just harmless fairy tales, no one would ever do that." Don't the people who object to the Bible being taught in schools consider the Bible to be a falsity, fairy tale, or collection of parables? If both are viewed as equally false, and if both have literary merit, what's the difference?
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The Bible is an interesting thing to offer but not force. That said, I don't know that I trust something as poorly set-up as a high school faculty to be teaching it. I foresee a lot of misuse.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think you guys are misunderestimating misunderstanding what this course is. They're using the Bible as a history text, not teaching the religious aspects.

Basically, what Locke said.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Isn't that like against some big government rulebook or somthing?
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:07 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Why, if we ,like, even speak of god in my school we get a detention. And I guarantee there are some non catholics or whoever doesnt use the bible in some public school in some part of texas.
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