uhm im not sure this is the place but is anyone here a wiccan?
I'm a wiccan myself, im good with the elements, i am a sensational, id like to meet a listener but they are hard to come by, but anyway, if nobody else here is wiccan befor u make assumptions about my religion u should really know what it is, many think we are baby and goat killers, not true, thats satanism, we don't think we are magickal either, we dont have specials powers, anyone can do what we do. and the pentagram, many think it is a satanic symbol, well satanists are our opposite, the use it upside down and that way it represents the following, death, enslavement, binding, destruction, and eternal pain. however we wiccans use it right side up, the highest point faces north, ours represents the 5 elements, earth air fire water and spirt, spirit is pretty much the unity and teamwork of the elements...so dont u dare call me evil, we are nuetral
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The name says different I will look past that. I, to be honest, have never heard of a wiccan but will not judge you at all different from anyone else. Its nice to see someone belonging to themselves, rather than God or a higher anarchist role model.
As demonology mentioned, they are not the evil cult figures that they are made out to be in Catholicism, or Hollywood movies for that matter. Paganism actually pre-dates Catholicism and some of our Christian traditions actually stem from paganism. Examples: Christmas trees, the Yule Log, the pine cone on the Pope's staff, the fact that Christmas is celebrated near the Winter Solstice all have their roots in Paganism.
It's also generally believed that, when Catholicism took hold and eventually surpassed many of the older religions, those other religions were demonized by the Church (including Pagans). A perfect example, to this day, is our general feeling towards witches, warlocks, and even "All Hallows’ Eve" (Halloween).
roebeet, thank you for that, in fact wiccan was before peganism, its an extremely old religion, oh and btw, charge, the name demonolgy, ill tell u about that juuuuust to clear it up. well im in highschool still so lotsa heartbreak and drama, there was a song called "demonology and heartache" by a band called atreyu, i couldnt think of a good name for the forums but i didnt wanna totally copy the band, and the word demonology means the study of demons, just because one studies demons dont mean they are on their side, and i dont anyway, its just a good song that fits my broken emotions, dont be so quick to judge me...and also, we dont believe in god kinda, we have gods and goddesses, yes plural, and we believe all wiccans belong to them, but we will never do their bidding
Wicca, for the most part, is duotheistic, revering the Goddess and God, the Goddess representing the moon, earth and sea and the God representing the sun and sky. Some expand on that to include a pantheism, such as that of the ancient Greek, Roman, Celtic, Norse or Egyptian peoples, but the belief is that all Goddesses are resident within the Goddess, and all gods within the God. Unlike some other religions, we don't see the Goddess and God as being unattainable in a "heaven." Instead, the Goddess and God are in nature. They are in every rock and tree and river. They are all around us and within us, too.
There are also several variants of Wicca, but most Wiccans are a derived from Gerald Gardner Wicca or Neo-Paganism. Since Wicca is based on Old Paganism traditions with Gardner's own stylization. Then others have offshoot or varied from that.
Gerald Gardner seems to have been influenced by the earlier work of the Golden Dawn (Samuel MacGregor-Mathers, Aleister Crowley, etcetera), but instead of incoporating the Egyptian and Judeo beliefs, Gods, rituals, it instead pulled more from the core system of the Golden Dawn with flavouring from documents on Paganism. Though I think there is a story about Gardner, just like MacGregor-Mathers and Crowley, where he went and learned from an old practitioner.
Whether that is true or not is debatable as they could have said they did it just to lend more credence to their statement. With Samuel, it would be more believable than Crowley. No clue on Gardner.
I think it was only recently like around 1998-99 on forward that Wiccans and Neo-Pagans started to pursue documents that are older than Gardner's and those influenced by him, and thus we have older influences on some of the offshoots of Gardnerian Wicca.
Keep in mind, Wicca is paganism, a form of it that practices rituals in line with either nature or whatever aspect they fall in line with. Rituals that are not often practised by paganism in general. Which is why I state Wicca is paganism NOT paganism is Wicca.
Myself, I was quite versed in Wicca at the time I was Wiccan, but 8 years plus of not "Merry Meet"ing and "Merry Part"ing has made that area a little foggy on the finer details.
I have no more problem with someone being a Wiccan than I have with a person being a Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Satanist, Atheist, etcetera.
As for myself, as I have stated elsewhere, I am a Discordian, if that information needs to be known.
We don't need no education!
We don't need no thought control,
No dark sarcasm in the classroom!
Teachers leave them kids alone,
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
The Christian Propaganda Machine has told me that Wiccans are evil demon worshipers. I've never really done real research on the religion.
exactly, propaganda. in fact demons are well known for attacking wiccans, tho iv never seen this i have heard of it. the demon and devil warshippers satanist. i really dont take kindly to those ppl, that is the only religion i hate and will never accept...in a way, wiccans and christians believe in the same god, but wiccans also believe in the goddess...
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We don't need no education!
We don't need no thought control,
No dark sarcasm in the classroom!
Teachers leave them kids alone,
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
yeah idk why but that surprises everyone that we aint evil
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12:50 PM <Elektrolik>A while ago, I found out that "Liar, Liar Pants On Fire" translated into French and back comes back to say "Teller of Untruths, Your Trousers Have Combusted". I laughed. MLIA
We don't need no education!
We don't need no thought control,
No dark sarcasm in the classroom!
Teachers leave them kids alone,
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
well its mostly cuz of the pentagram, ppl think its evil, but it aint, it represents air earth fire water and spirit, as i metioned earlier, and u wont find pics of a real cerimony, a real wiccan will NOT take pics during cerimonys, and if htey do its kept within the cicle or clan, and in a nutshell our cerimonies are basically getting in a circle and praying, i dont know how all this evil crap started...
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there is no difference between music and noise other than who sais wich is wich and when.
12:50 PM <Elektrolik>A while ago, I found out that "Liar, Liar Pants On Fire" translated into French and back comes back to say "Teller of Untruths, Your Trousers Have Combusted". I laughed. MLIA
People generally tend to fear and hate what they do not understand. In the old days, people used to make up fake rituals and spread lies to make witchcraft appear to be much more atrocious than it really is. Christianity had a lot to do with this as well. The Church did not approve of any other religion or belief system, no matter how much more or less--efficient is not the word I'm looking for--it was. Fortunately, the world is a bit more tolerant today, though the past's misunderstandings still lead to misconceptions.
well ppl need to accept that they cannot change and kill what they do not understand, accept it, example, i cant understang girls, but i accept them off topic i know...
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there is no difference between music and noise other than who sais wich is wich and when.
12:50 PM <Elektrolik>A while ago, I found out that "Liar, Liar Pants On Fire" translated into French and back comes back to say "Teller of Untruths, Your Trousers Have Combusted". I laughed. MLIA
uhm im not sure this is the place but is anyone here a wiccan?
off topic i know...
