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Old 08-22-2008, 07:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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does your religion(or lack) effect your political choices?



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Old 08-22-2008, 08:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Simple: They do not.
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i think it does if you like a religion and your politician is a represenator of that religion your more likely to vote for them than the one thats not cause you already have the same belifes
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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when I look at the political candiadates my religious views don't affect it at all. I simply go by their views on the issues that I find important. Also I look at their past history to find out if it's close to me... as far as a party I go by the key issues to me.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
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oh man this is easy for me, i don't believe in any major religion and i don't believe in the American democratic system! so i don't vote, i'm just waiting for tensions to build up enough between the democratic and republican partys so a civil war will break out and then i'll gather a third group up of the people that are tired of their vote not counting and the system being the way it is and we'll become gorilla soldiers and take over the country while the 2 partys are blindly fighting each other.
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Old 08-23-2008, 04:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Well, it does, but not in the way you mean. I wouldn't vote for Huckabee just because he's a Christian or not vote for Romney because he's a Mormon. My religion affects my entire outlook on life, so all of my choices are colored by my beliefs and ethic. Ethically, Romney would do a fine job, and I prefer his policies, so I'd rather vote for him, regardless of the fact that he's a Mormon. I know quite a few Christians that don't feel the same way though. ;_;
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I'm not too sure they do... I just always vote Democrat lol
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Old 08-23-2008, 04:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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oh man this is easy for me, i don't believe in any major religion and i don't believe in the American democratic system! so i don't vote, i'm just waiting for tensions to build up enough between the democratic and republican partys so a civil war will break out and then i'll gather a third group up of the people that are tired of their vote not counting and the system being the way it is and we'll become gorilla soldiers and take over the country while the 2 partys are blindly fighting each other.

So then you're saying that you're not going to vote for Nader?
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Old 08-24-2008, 01:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I honestly try to look at it with an unbiased opinion, but sometimes after watching a person on a "side" fu** up so bad that it hurts my stomach, Then I tend to sway, but who doesn't really.
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Old 08-24-2008, 06:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Oh, Dark, this may be a bit off topic, but I do have one question for you about the title: did you actually mean "effect," which actually can be used in a grammatically correct fashion applicable to this topic, or did you actually mean "affect?" Because, using "effect' here actually give the connation of decisive action, as in voting. As a grammar nerd, I think it'd be pretty sweet if someone other than me still uses "effect" like that, so I'd like to know.
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Though let us look at a third party for this whole thing...

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Affect

In order to understand the correct situation in which to use the word affect or effect, the first thing one must do is have a clear understanding of what each word means. According to yourDictionary.com, the word
Affect means:

1. To have an influence on or effect a change in: Inflation affects the buying power of the dollar.
2. To act on the emotions of; touch or move.
3. To attack or infect, as a disease: Rheumatic fever can affect the heart.

Effect

The word effect has a different meaning. Here is the meaning according to yourDictionary.com:

1. Something brought about by a cause or agent; a result.
2. The power to produce an outcome or achieve a result; influence: The drug had an immediate effect on the pain. The government's action had no effect on the trade imbalance.
3. A scientific law, hypothesis, or phenomenon: the photovoltaic effect.
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4. Advantage; avail: used her words to great effect in influencing the jury.
5. The condition of being in full force or execution: a new regulation that goes into effect tomorrow.
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1. Something that produces a specific impression or supports a general design or intention: The lighting effects emphasized the harsh atmosphere of the drama.
2. A particular impression: large windows that gave an effect of spaciousness.
3. Production of a desired impression: spent lavishly on dinner just for effect.
7. The basic or general meaning; import: He said he was greatly worried, or words to that effect.

Grammar Rules for Affect and Effect

Now that we have the two definitions, how do we know which word to use? Here are a few suggestions to keep in mind:

1. If you are talking about a result, then use the word "effect."

* Example: What effect did the loss have on the team?

2. It is appropriate to use the word "effect" if one of these words is used immediately before the word: into, no, take, the, any, an, or and.

* Example: The prescribed medication had no effect on the patient's symptoms.
* Example: In analyzing a situation, it is important to take the concepts of cause and effect into consideration.

3. If you want to describe something that was caused or brought about, the right word to use is effect.

* Example: The new manager effected some positive changes in the office. (This means that the new manager caused some positive changes to take place in the office.)

4. Affect can be used as a noun to describe facial expression.

* Example: The young man with schizophrenia had a flat affect.
* Example: The woman took the news of her husband's sudden death with little affect.

5. Affect can also be used as a verb. Use it when trying to describe influencing someone or something rather than causing it.

* Example: How does the crime rate affect hiring levels by local police forces?
* Example: The weather conditions will affect the number of people who come to the county fair this year.
Source: Affect vs. Effect Grammar Rules and Usage
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Though let us look at a third party for this whole thing...

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So then... Is the question: "How are your political choices influenced by your religious views?" or "How do your religious views determine your political choices?"?
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So then you're saying that you're not going to vote for Nader?
well considering i'm not even a registered voter i don't think so...
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Old 09-01-2008, 06:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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well, IF i could legally vote, my politicol choices would be soley based upon my beleif. I want to do God's will in every aspect of my life,s o anturally i wouldn't vote for something/someone that went against God's will (i.e I am pro life and against gay marriage).




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I think people might be looking at this in an oversimplified way, maybe you won't vote or not vote for so and so because he or she belongs to or doesn't belong to a certain religion, but that doesn't mean religion doesn't have any effect on your political choices, when you're exposed to something from such a young age, which people are whether or not they're strongly religious, you're saying it doesn't effect your views on policy at all?

Personally, yes, I'm an atheist and my view on religion certainly effects my political choices, in that I would not knowingly vote for an evangelical. I think it's fine for people to practice their religious beliefs at home, in church, etc., though I do think the world would be a better place with fewer religious fundamentalists, that is their right to practice as they wish, but it belongs completely separate from government. The United States was founded as a secular nation, with a separation of church and state, so when I think about the way the Christian right has made it their mission to fuse their religious beliefs into U.S. law and policy, I cringe. Personally, I view these fundamentalists as just as dangerous, or even more dangerous, than the Islamic fundamentalists who threaten this country with violence, at least their methods aren't so insidious.

If you have strong Christian beliefs, that's fine, but I personally find those beliefs to be ridiculous, and I don't want them dictating laws and policy, and more to the point than my personal beliefs, the Christian right is fundamentally in opposition with the founding principles of this country.

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does your religion(or lack) effect your political choices?
Religion effects my political views in the sense that i never want a president who believes entirely in the acts of god.

Any president who thinks the world is going to end soon, and god will handle things for us in the long run is a frightening aspect. That is asking for bad choices.


Politics need to separate from religion.
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I think people might be looking at this in an oversimplified way, maybe you won't vote or not vote for so and so because he or she belongs to or doesn't belong to a certain religion, but that doesn't mean religion doesn't have any effect on your political choices, when you're exposed to something from such a young age, which people are whether or not they're strongly religious, you're saying it doesn't effect your views on policy at all?

Personally, yes, I'm an atheist and my view on religion certainly effects my political choices, in that I would not knowingly vote for an evangelical. I think it's fine for people to practice their religious beliefs at home, in church, etc., though I do think the world would be a better place with fewer religious fundamentalists, that is their right to practice as they wish, but it