If you have questions for a Jehovah's Witness:

[SnufflesDOW117]

anymore questions?

[BobtheWalrus]

Originally Posted by BobtheWalrus

Why don't Jehovah's Witnesses salute/pledge to the flag?
Alligence with God?

How about no to Birthdays and Holidays, but yes to Anniverserys

These?

[SilentWalrus]

Obviously these people didn't know that the bible was written by humans.

[BobtheWalrus]

Originally Posted by SilentWalrus

Obviously these people didn't know that the bible was written by humans.

And the New Testament 100 years after Jesus...

Andth people be spaketh like thith (Lisp)

[SilentWalrus]

Hmmm
Wikipedia..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors_of_the_Bible
Translation.
God did not write the bible, humans did.
Which means it's a book, don't follow it/follow it literally.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by BobtheWalrus

And the New Testament 100 years after Jesus...

Wrong actually. Unless you have some proof you'd like to show us, most Christians agree that the first books were written as early as 55 AD, with many written between 60-80 AD. Since Jesus' death was around 30-35 AD, that means that the first books were written 20 years after, the latest around 50 or 60 years. Again, unless you have some evidence to counter these claims.

[HB99]

Originally Posted by Locke

Wrong actually. Unless you have some proof you'd like to show us, most Christians agree that the first books were written as early as 55 AD, with many written between 60-80 AD. Since Jesus' death was around 30-35 AD, that means that the first books were written 20 years after, the latest around 50 or 60 years. Again, unless you have some evidence to counter these claims.

...and it was the Council of Nicea in about 365 AD that came up with the grand scheme that Jesaus was devine, his mother was a virgin (virgin at that time just meant young girl, not a girl who never had sex), and which books would be included and excluded in the official bible.

Recent views speculate that Jesus' real father could have been a Roman soldier and Mary was raped...a very popular activity for soldiers at the time...face it, even today a pregnant 14 yo girl will say she never had sex...

Besides, isn't God's real name Allah??

[BobtheWalrus]

Originally Posted by HB99

...and it was the Council of Nicea in about 365 AD that came up with the grand scheme that Jesaus was devine, his mother was a virgin (virgin at that time just meant young girl, not a girl who never had sex), and which books would be included and excluded in the official bible.

This is what I meant

[Gow616]

Originally Posted by HB99

...his mother was a virgin (virgin at that time just meant young girl, not a girl who never had sex)...

No, virgin comes from Latin Virgo which probably originates from the Greek and it means a sexually intact woman. Unless the Roman's invented the term after the Council of Nicea and had no idea of the etymology of the word and how it came from Greek roots like their Gods. Ever heard of the Oracle of Delphi? A Greek female virgin who could supposedly speak the words of Apollo and by the Greek use of the word they mean a sexually intact woman.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/virgo

Originally Posted by HB99

Besides, isn't God's real name Allah??

No, it is YHVH (in Hebrew) not Jehovah or Allah at least that is what it is to oldest monotheist texts that believe in that particular deity. I.E. The Torah.

[SilentWalrus]

Hard core bible noobs just got owned.

[ben52192]

Originally Posted by SnufflesDOW117

anymore questions?

Yeah, do you guys hate Jewish people?

[da_mean_cat]

I have a question.

With over 8 million members i think we are pretty big.

8 million Jehovah's Witnesses and only 144,000 are going to heaven?

I'm a christian myself and I have studied the Bible (still on it).

1. God's Name is Jehovah, Psalms 83:18, King James

That's true. One of many names he has since the Jews were so respectful and didn't dare call him God.

2. We believe that 144,000 people are going to heaven, and that is in Revelation 7:4. 12,000 from each tribe of spiritual isreal.

"Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel". Yes but that talking about the sealed ones from Israel, like you said. not the rest of us!

3. We don't join the military because of this scripture: John 15:17-29

Excuse m but that scripture doesn't say anything about joining the military but that we will be persecuted for the name of Jesus. Nothing Else.

4. No blood, Acts 15:20

"Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from FOOD polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the MEAT of strangled animals and from BLOOD". Read it carefully and you'll find out is talking about eating strangled animal meat or drinking blood.

5. We also don't believe in hellfire, only death, that can be explained if you want, it is just very complicated.

if you don't believe in hellfire explain this scripture in revelation please.

Revelations 20:14-15

"14 - Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the SECOND DEATH. 15 - If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

[da_mean_cat]

wow... no one answered me my questions

[SnufflesDOW117]

ive got answers for you. Wait untill i get off of work, and i will answer your questions.

[SnufflesDOW117]

Firstly, the bible was written in 66 books, all of wich were divinely inspired.
Secondly, the new testament was written by jesus's apostles and select diciples, most of whom wrote their accounts near the end of their life.

to da mean cat,
what other names have you come accross in the bible? other than lord, god, eternal, and father, i have yet to find another other than jehovah.
2
if you notice i said spiritual israel. Israel lost gods favor long ago, when the old covenant was broken and a new covenant put into place. The new covenant is with a spiritual israel, wich is god's organization on earth.
3
because we are "no part of the world" we do not take part in its affairs. Including politics, military, and other things. Also one of the reasons we do not salute the flag.

thats all before i go to work be back later

[monahan]

Originally Posted by SnufflesDOW117

1. God's Name is Jehovah, Psalms 83:18, King James

Except God's name isn't Jehovah is it? The first name God is referred as in scripture is Elohim, but is also referred to as El Shaddai. Of course, it is Popular considered that the proper name for god is YHVH, or Yahweh (as it is commonly believed by scholars to be pronounced.)

When you consider that Jehovah could be considered a derivative of YHVH, How do you feel about the idea that by uttering the name of god, you have banished yourself from the world to come?

Originally Posted by da_mean_cat

That's true. One of many names he has since the Jews were so respectful and didn't dare call him God.

I was under the impression that his real name isn't uttered, and that he's referred to in the written word to as G-D

Incidentally, Jo Jehovah's witnesses read predominantly from the King James bible, which is widely regarded to be nothing more than church propaganda to control the masses?

[Gow616]

Problem is...Hebrew is NOT simple at all to translate to English. Yahweh is the English Pronunciation of YHVH derived from the translation of YHVH to English YHWH. Germans and others translated it to JHWH.

Elohim gets used in Elohist texts and Yahwah in Jahwist texts.

To make matter even more complicated, Jewish people do not utter the name of YHVH so that the exact Hebrew pronunciation is not fully known. What sound is silent and what sound is not, etcetera. Instead they use other names such as Adonai, Shem HaMeforash, HaShem....

Not to mention, of course, El Shaddai amongst other names.

Elohist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jahwist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The problem began when people tried to translate Hebrew to Greek or Latin. I think Jehovah came out of the Protestant Reformation from the German translation of the YHVH, the JHWH or JHVH ones.

Jehovah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Question for the Witness,

What has been stated by the witnesses about this naming? Where did they adopt Jehovah from?

[monahan]

Originally Posted by Gow616

Problem is...Hebrew is NOT simple at all to translate to English. Yahweh is the English Pronunciation of YHVH derived from the translation of YHVH to English YHWH. Germans and others translated it to JHWH.

Elohim gets used in Elohist texts and Yahwah in Jahwist texts.

To make matter even more complicated, Jewish people do not utter the name of YHVH so that the exact Hebrew pronunciation is not fully known. What sound is silent and what sound is not, etcetera. Instead they use other names such as Adonai, Shem HaMeforash, HaShem....

Not to mention, of course, El Shaddai amongst other names.

Elohist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jahwist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The problem began when people tried to translate Hebrew to Greek or Latin. I think Jehovah came out of the Protestant Reformation from the German translat