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Old 06-24-2009, 03:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Hacking Zune 3.01

Before proceeding you must have adequate computer application knowledge. You must have enough computer knowledge to make slight changes in your PC registry. Thank You.



This hack will allow you to delete stuff off your Zune in Windows Explorer with the new Zune firmware.

This is an extension to the old tutorial so if you know where all the data is located and have already gone through the old tutorial you can skip to step 6.

Deleting files from your Zune might not seem like a big feat, however this hack is simply the beginning. If we work together we may finally get full power over the storage device. Complete and undenied power!!!

Anyways here is the entire hack from a-z:

Hacking Zune with firmware 3.1!
1. Make sure your Zune is not plugged in and your Zune software isn't running.


2. Open up regedit by going to the start menu and selecting "run". Type regedt32 and hit "OK".


3. Browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\


4. Search for "PortableDeviceNameSpace". This should be contained in the Vid_####&Pid_####\########_-_########_-_########_-_########\Device Parameters within the above ...\USB\ The ##'s listed here will be numbers and letters specific to your Zune.

5. Change the following values:
·EnableLegacySupport to 1
· PortableDeviceNameSpaceExcludeFromShell to 0
·ShowInShell to 1

Extension for Zune 3.01 compatibility starts here

6. Click on subfolder WUDF and change:
·Exclusive to 0000 00 00 00 00 (aka 0)

7. Click on subfolder ZuneDriver and change:
·UseWpdPrivateInterface to 0000 00 00 00 00 (aka 0)

8. Now when your Zune is plugged in you should be able to browse to the Zune as a Portable Device, however you don't have permission to do ANYTHING but view the files.

So unplug your zune and go back to regedit. Now Right click on USB (the upper-level folder where all of this stuff is located) and click "Permissions"

9. Perhaps the hardest part... You will need to be logged in as an Admin to do this. To modify files in your Zune you need to take ownership over the USB registry folder. This is done in a DIFFERENT way than adding permissions. Here is how you do it:

·Go to Advanced.
· Click on the Owner Tab.
· In the "Change Owner To:" box, click on your name.
·Now click on the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects"
·Press OK.

Now that you are the owner, you can add permission for yourself to have full access to the folder.

( If you need more help with file ownership refer to: Take Ownership of file - Vista Forums )

10. Now you can plug the Zune back in. THIS IS IMPORTANT: Turn off the zune software, it will conflict with windows explorer. Double check in Regedit if all the values are set correctly.

Done! Browse to Computer. If you did everything correctly, and didn’t ruin your computer in Regedit, you should see a new device pop up under "Other". Have fun deleting stuff off your Zune!

NOTICE:
If this isn't working try doing steps 5-10 in the other USB folders located in ControlSet002, ControlSet003, etc. It will work, eventually…


Reply if this hack works for you, as it did for me.

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Seriously, Why not?

Its not that hard. Just a few extra steps and boom your done.

Maybe I'll make a program that does it all for you. But I need help finishing the hack first.



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yeah make a program that does it for you then i might try it
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Program will help. Also figuring out how to add will help also =]





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It took me less than a minute to do. You two are lazy.

It works as described, but it is doubtful that anything more will be able to be done with it. The read and add WPD commands are disabled until the Zune software establishes a connection with the Zune, which then only the Zune software has access to the Zune.
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It took me less than a minute to do. You two are lazy.

It works as described, but it is doubtful that anything more will be able to be done with it. The read and add WPD commands are disabled until the Zune software establishes a connection with the Zune, which then only the Zune software has access to the Zune.
No point in doing it, if you have no need for it.
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No point in doing it, if you have no need for it.
Right, but that is not the reason they gave for not wanting to to do it. They wanted a program to do somethng very simple.
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Right, but that is not the reason they gave for not wanting to to do it. They wanted a program to do somethng very simple.
Many people are afraid of touching the registry and system files, and almost as many rightfully should be.
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Well I had no way of deleting files off my Zune so I was forced to find a way to access my Zune's storage device. This hack has been very helpful to me.

However one undesired sideffect is that the Zune still thinks that the file is on my Zune, the result is a blank video.

Btw, whenever you dig in the registry: Make a flippin backup first!



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Right, but that is not the reason they gave for not wanting to to do it. They wanted a program to do somethng very simple.
"Simple" is a very subjective term - it depends on your level of technical expertise. I would not call this simple, for your average user (no offense to Prodigy12).
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"Simple" is a very subjective term - it depends on your level of technical expertise. I would not call this simple, for your average user (no offense to Prodigy12).
It is not that subjective. Otherwise, why not just say that clicking a mouse button is not simple? If someone wants to do something (technology-related) that is not supposed to be done in the first place, they should be able to follow those steps. Except for explicitly saying "click on that tab, click on that button", it does not get any simpler than that. Also, I am only talking about steps 1 through 5, since that is what most people would have to do.

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Many people are afraid of touching the registry and system files, and almost as many rightfully should be.
People are just paranoid. If someone is not capable of following simple steps and somehow screw up their registry, they deserve it.

There is no reason for someone to be terrified of ruining their registry unless they delete a bunch of keys that they are not supposed to, in which case they would be complete morons and hopefully that would cause their computer to not work anymore, temporarily sparing the rest of us from their stupidity.

If I seem a bit too harsh, that is because I have a zero-tolerance policy for stupidity. Of course, I am not calling anyone here an idiot.
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It is not that subjective. Otherwise, why not just say that clicking a mouse button is not simple? .....

..... People are just paranoid. If someone is not capable of following simple steps and somehow screw up their registry, they deserve it.

There is no reason for someone to be terrified of ruining their registry unless they delete a bunch of keys that they are not supposed to, in which case they would be complete morons and hopefully that would cause their computer to not work anymore, temporarily sparing the rest of us from their stupidity.

If I seem a bit too harsh, that is because I have a zero-tolerance policy for stupidity. Of course, I am not calling anyone here an idiot.
Clicking a mouse and delving into your registry are completely different things.

As for following instructions -- there is always, and I mean ALWAYS, a risk to doing things like this. What about XP users? What about x64 users? Are these instructions the same for them? (again, not faulting Prodigy12 here) Being conservative is usually the best course of action, and not stupid in any way. On the contrary, assuming the instructions will automatically work for you without taking steps to backup your data first is actually not the most intelligent thing to do.

Btw, you might want to avoid any service-oriented jobs.
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I've modified my first post to prevent future outbreaks of incompetence.

So please stop arguing over nothing.


P.S. This hack should work on XP's and X64 as well. The USB folder is relatively static throughout the systems.

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So please stop arguing over nothing.
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Clicking a mouse and delving into your registry are completely different things.

As for following instructions -- there is always, and I mean ALWAYS, a risk to doing things like this. What about XP users? What about x64 users? Are these instructions the same for them? (again, not faulting Prodigy12 here) Being conservative is usually the best course of action, and not stupid in any way. On the contrary, assuming the instructions will automatically work for you without taking steps to backup your data first is actually not the most intelligent thing to do.

Btw, you might want to avoid any service-oriented jobs.
The two are not that different... It is mostly clicking with the mouse, then changing three values with the keyboard. It is not some complex process that requires a lot of brainpower.

I would like to know what risk there is by changing three values for nonessential registry keys.

Also, I do plan on avoiding such jobs.

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So please stop arguing over nothing.


P.S. This hack should work on XP's and X64 as well. The USB folder is relatively static throughout the systems.
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Step 9 is the one that think would be hard for your average user to grasp. Even with instructions, there's a risk that they could screw something up.

I usually use the "boss" test - if I think my boss could do it, then I think that the average PC user could do it. I think there's a possibility that he could somehow screw up Step 9.

Actually, you might want to consider self-employment. Moronic management is every harder to deal with than idiotic customers.
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Step 9 is the one that think would be hard for your average user to grasp. Even with instructions, there's a risk that they could screw something up.

I usually use the "boss" test - if I think my boss could do it, then I think that the average PC user could do it. I think there's a possibility that he could somehow screw up Step 9.

Actually, you might want to consider self-employment. Moronic management is every harder to deal with than idiotic customers.
I edited one of my previous posts and said I was only talking about steps 1 through 5, since that is what most users would have to follow. I agree that the extra steps are harder and a bit riskier, but the first five are harmless enough.
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I just downgraded my zune back to 2.5 yesterday so I could use the old zAutoUnlocker again.

I am on XP 32,
I just tried it and it worked, I used zAutoUnlocker to add a new folder to the device, reconnected the zune, then I was able to delete that new folder while the zune was not in syncing mode.
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People are just paranoid. If someone is not capable of following simple steps and somehow screw up their registry, they deserve it.

There is no reason for someone to be terrified of ruining their registry unless they delete a bunch of keys that they are not supposed to, in which case they would be complete morons and hopefully that would cause their computer to not work anymore, temporarily sparing the rest of us from their stupidity.
That's the thing: a lot of people have a hard time turning simple English commands into doing something on a screen. There's a complete disconnect, and it makes it hard to follow even basic commands. If you've ever read Rinkworks' computer humor archive, there's more than enough proof.
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