Look at the top. I know it's nothing special, but they are a little ahead of us, but still behind zune-linux. If anybody has bothered to read the posts at zune linux, they did the same thing like a few months ago, but the microsoft signature stopped them dead from loading firmware modified in ANY way onto the zune. So really, it's kinda funny that they put so much work into that, only to find out what some people did a couple months ago. Good for them.
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Yes. But let's learn from their mistakes, and make sure we're not wasting time either.
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Yeah, and remember guys, SauliusM and his buddy were total PRICKS while they were here, and the only progress they had ever made were with the tools we had posted to use.
Now that that's gone, they're probably just bul****in. The first real Zune hack? That's not even a hack, that's GGGGHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYY.
EDIT: Oh! I read some of the conversation. Some hacker geniuses they are. They just changed a few packets. Nice. The first real Zune hack my ass. Salius and Shaligum really piss me off.
Yeah, if you read the last few posts you can totally tell they REALLY know what they are talking about:
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do i look stupid to you?
no, its not the device certificate lol.
and its not the latter either.
by certificate authority i mean what the zune is allowed to communicate with, and how it communicates with it.
and by encryption key, i mean, the devices sig check, and encryption.
And you know what? Macs are too hip. Oh, look at me! I do graphic design! I wear women's jeans and hang out in coffee shops! I'm a DJ! Well good for you. My computer is not a fashion statement. It's a computer.
Oh man, (sorry for the absence, still sick ) it's going to be very hard to emulate a digital signature, as you really can't edit it. The signature is a MD4, MD5, or possibly an MD6 hashed hexidecimal private key that is probably, well - most likely, protected by cipher text (RC4, anyone?). So yeah... this will be fun.
Oh man, (sorry for the absence, still sick ) it's going to be very hard to emulate a digital signature, as you really can't edit it. The signature is a MD4, MD5, or possibly an MD6 hashed hexidecimal private key that is probably, well - most likely, protected by cipher text (RC4, anyone?). So yeah... this will be fun.
LOL, fun, i cant wait till we try to brute force that one......... Good Luck Us!
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I strongly believe this is the DRM scheme that the Zune uses.
P.S. I was the one who added Zune marketplace and Zune device to the lists. Yay me.
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And you know what? Macs are too hip. Oh, look at me! I do graphic design! I wear women's jeans and hang out in coffee shops! I'm a DJ! Well good for you. My computer is not a fashion statement. It's a computer.
That's it. I am not dealing with zuney any longer. The admins are total noobs and really, I couldn't care less about cooperation. For all I care, those admins can go boil their fat [expletive]s. Especially that rob.
And you know what? Macs are too hip. Oh, look at me! I do graphic design! I wear women's jeans and hang out in coffee shops! I'm a DJ! Well good for you. My computer is not a fashion statement. It's a computer.
I just read the post and i couldnt help but say "what a bunch of retards" seriously, that rob thinks that HE actually developed a hack. They didnt do crap, all they did is downgrade firmware, which we dont even kno if that is true... and suppose it was, whooptey doo im sure none of them are working on anything worth while like buffer overflows, they probably sitting in a garage trying to break sha-1, im sorry for being so mean but that really got me fired up
and to think at one point i wanted to do a collabrotive hack, we have WAY more info then them, if i were rob i would relish at an oppurtunity to gain a glimpse at zuneboards enternal knowledge
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I just read the post and i couldnt help but say "what a bunch of retards" seriously, that rob thinks that HE actually developed a hack. They didnt do crap, all they did is downgrade firmware, which we dont even kno if that is true... and suppose it was, whooptey doo im sure none of them are working on anything worth while like buffer overflows, they probably sitting in a garage trying to break sha-1, im sorry for being so mean but that really got me fired up
and to think at one point i wanted to do a collabrotive hack, we have WAY more info then them, if i were rob i would relish at an oppurtunity to gain a glimpse at zuneboards enternal knowledge
Like what I was saying earlier:
If we collaborated it would be like dragging along extra dead weight. We would be doing all the work while they sit on their lazy fat [b]asses pretending to help. It would be nothing but a hinderance and an annoyance. Besides, after reading that thread, I just realized what a bunch of idiots those admins are.
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And you know what? Macs are too hip. Oh, look at me! I do graphic design! I wear women's jeans and hang out in coffee shops! I'm a DJ! Well good for you. My computer is not a fashion statement. It's a computer.
Originally Posted by http://www.zuney.net/6030-post9.html
sure they may have done it, but we managed to get two things that they don't have
1. Zune Certificate Authority
2. The Encryption Key
Even if they FOUND the certificate and key, they cannot edit it. Once modified the SLIGHTEST bit, the hex value (key) changes.
EDIIIIITTTT: Looks like the Zune may use SHA (Secure Hash Algorithm) for it's key. If this is so, it will have strength between 32 and 512 bits in MULTIPLE (Private and Public) layers of protection (keys).
Oh, and if you're wondering... yeah, that's the government who uses SHA as a security standard
With top notch PC's, it would take hundreds of thousands of hours to brute force this code... so that's out of the question because... well... it wouldn't really help anyway... lol
So the only way to modding the Zune would be an exploit.
Yes, hopefully some type of buffer overflow exploit regarding either .jpg files or quartz.dll (directshow), which the zune uses for media playback.
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And you know what? Macs are too hip. Oh, look at me! I do graphic design! I wear women's jeans and hang out in coffee shops! I'm a DJ! Well good for you. My computer is not a fashion statement. It's a computer.
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) it's going to be very hard to emulate a digital signature, as you really can't edit it. The signature is a MD4, MD5, or possibly an MD6 hashed hexidecimal private key that is probably, well - most likely, protected by cipher text (RC4, anyone?). So yeah... this will be fun. 
