Application For Zune HD, What how much development will cost?
Hi, I want to create an DJ app for Zune HD, can some one quote for me the approximate price?
Also, what will I need? Will I need to provide sound samples, or they will be generated by the app?
If you were wondering how much the tools to develop for Zune cost, they're free!
You'll need your sound samples as separate sound files. You'll also need working understanding of XNA and C# for programming. Both are free and easily downloadable from Microsoft's site.
A DJ app sounds very cool, and very possible. Sadly, XNA does not support sound generation live, though, so you'll need each of your sounds as separate files.
The one and only book on Zune development would probably be very, very, helpful. It doesn't include the accelerometer or touch screen commands as it was before the Zune HD's time, but everything else is the same I believe.
Is there a ZNA 3.1 one? And you know any other books?
...If you don't already know basic game design concepts, the book probably won't help. If you do know basic game design concepts, then there shouldn't be a problem figuring out the new stuff.
Hi, I meant if I pay some one to make an DJ app where you can mix music and save it. and When do you think Zune Marketplace will be open for developers to submit games?
Hi, I meant if I pay some one to make an DJ app where you can mix music and save it. and When do you think Zune Marketplace will be open for developers to submit games?
i dont know if there is a precedent for this so its hard to say, i guess it depends on what kind of quality you want. as for the marketplace, microsoft doesnt tend to be extremely forward about these kinds of things, although, if you are planning on selling this game through the marketplace rather than providing it free, expect to pay some royalties to microsoft
Hi, I meant if I pay some one to make an DJ app where you can mix music and save it. and When do you think Zune Marketplace will be open for developers to submit games?
You wouldn't be able to mix your music with xna, also you wouldn't be able to save it to anything besides the app itself.
Does Zune just support only XNA? I doubt it, because it is a music device, I think Microsoft has to provide the SDK with all those features, otherwise it has no change. Microsoft can't just make all apps themselves, and I think that have to get that as FAST as possible. I already made the graphics for it, so now I can just hope that microsoft will take correct step forward with Zune.
and about the app:
-Highest quality possible
-Graphics and Sounds provided
-Only programing and so on
I won't make the app if there is no third party, because this will cost me money and I want to make profit from it...
You obviously know nothing about programming, but that's why we are here to help. Zune only supports XNA for games, and Microsoft is not releasing their SDK anytime soon. You probably won't find anyone who will make the game for you, let alone make a profit.
Ducktape, you can find more books about xna by searching xna on amazon.com. The book i linked to appears to be the only official book on zune development, though zune development is probably mentioned in some of the xna books.
I know that... but people say that Windows Mobile 7 is based on Zune OS, and that it will support XNA and Silverlight, and I think we will get silverlight upgrade on Zune HD. No SDK for Zune HD, will mean no success for Zune HD...
I know that... but people say that Windows Mobile 7 is based on Zune OS, and that it will support XNA and Silverlight, and I think we will get silverlight upgrade on Zune HD. No SDK for Zune HD, will mean no success for Zune HD...
Why do you think it's based off WinMo again? It has Windows CE on it not Windows Mobile. There's a big difference between them.
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- It is against the rules to make a profit.
- Windows Mobile 7 is not "based" on the Zune HD, the media player is just expected to be integrated with the Zune foundation somehow, probably a different codebase.
- Nobody said XNA is going to be made for WinMo7
- Nobody said anything about Silverlight on the ZuneHD + Silverlight is not at all related to XNA in the least bit.
- You can't hire people to make a profitable XNA app.
- You can't make DJ software using XNA (except for PC)
- You are just 100% wrong.
- It is against the rules to make a profit.
- Windows Mobile 7 is not "based" on the Zune HD, the media player is just expected to be integrated with the Zune foundation somehow, probably a different codebase.
- Nobody said XNA is going to be made for WinMo7
- Nobody said anything about Silverlight on the ZuneHD + Silverlight is not at all related to XNA in the least bit.
- You can't hire people to make a profitable XNA app.
- You can't make DJ software using XNA (except for PC)
- You are just 100% wrong.
I'm sorry to do this...
-news reports said the O/S is based around the zune HD, Codebase? the kernel? well reports say it looks very familiar so maybe it is the same kernel that they just built onto. Like how the Iphone/Itouch O/S's are. Link
-XNA 3.2 will support winMo7 FACT!
- True, but why did the facebook app get delaided? so MS rolls out the new firmware with windmo7, zune hd might get it for the facebook app. Also Silverlight runs XNA apps and other apps
-False, i hire artist/programmers for XNA xbox games
-False, there is a Xbox XNA app that you couldn't even imagine how in depth it goes. This DJ app could be done for the zune and i know a few coders good in this area that could help. Basically if you want to make your own song you start out by tapping a tap with a list of beats, tap one and it inserts to the track. Tap that beat in the track and it will be a longer beat. You could add more beats after that beat, add fade out fade in new beat. Also You want a drum solo with that beat tap the drums icon, pick a drum solo you want, inserts to the track in the drum solo slot under beats, you could slide it to start at different times. Only draw back is you could only play it on zune. (Contact me for a professional DJ app)
- NO sir you are 100% wrong thank you come again....
-news reports said the O/S is based around the zune HD, Codebase? the kernel? well reports say it looks very familiar so maybe it is the same kernel that they just built onto. Like how the Iphone/Itouch O/S's are. Link
No. Fact: The Zune HD's firmware is based on Windows CE 6.0 and Windows Mobile 7 is almost certainly based on Windows CE 7.0. There is quite a difference. The main two things are that Windows CE 6.0 does not support multi-core and can only use up to 512 MB of RAM. Microsoft would be murdering Windows Mobile if they made Windows Mobile 7 based on the Zune HD firmware. Windows Mobile 7 will get the Zune service and UI, not the core code.
That is full of fail. It has no credibility at all. You cannot say that is a fact. Besides, the next version of XNA is going to be 4.0. It could be possible the person from Microsoft said that the "next version" of XNA have support for Windows Mobile 7 and the person assumed the next version would be 3.2. It would seem slightly plausible. Microsoft could be hoping that people switch to XNA for development for Windows Mobile 7 and that they would port the games/apps to the Zune HD, thus increasing the amount of development for the Zune HD, but that is just speculation which is not very likely. XNA is way too slow on mobile devices for a lot of games/apps.
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Originally Posted by Crazzzy Stoner
- True, but why did the facebook app get delaided? so MS rolls out the new firmware with windmo7, zune hd might get it for the facebook app. Also Silverlight runs XNA apps and other apps
It as in the new firmware? As I said, Windows Mobile 7 will be running on a different version of Windows CE, they are not going to update the Zune HD to Windows CE 7 (anytime soon).
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Originally Posted by Crazzzy Stoner
-False, i hire artist/programmers for XNA xbox games
There is a different EULA for people in the XNA Creators Club, and I am pretty sure that only applies to selling the XNA games/apps through Xbox Live.
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So, I don't get it. One person says one thing, another one says something else.
well, here is my opinion.
Microsoft will release some kind of SDK for zune HD, Silver light or new XNA. I have no idea how XNA works, so I don't know if anything possible with it. I tried to play around with it, but failed.
Why can't you charge people when you have XNA game?you think zune marketplace would be only free aps from microsoft?!
Application For Zune HD, What how much development will cost?
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