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Old 10-22-2009, 07:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is a design i made for a piano app for the zune hd...





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Old 10-22-2009, 08:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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those look very nice, and you should make it to when you push a black key the shadow it gives off will get smaller =P
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Dude, if someone coded this, I would so download it.
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Aw, I thought there was one made when I clicked the link
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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those look very nice, and you should make it to when you push a black key the shadow it gives off will get smaller =P
I already have the images when the keys are pressed but shadow wont be changed because it is part of the white key image. I can do the black key and add a drop shadow and make it a transparent png but the dimensions of it will be bigger so if i press the shadow part on the white key this will trigger the black key instead of the white one get it?

Anyways we dont have to worry bout that until somebody will code it. I really want it to have full 88keys so u can toggle through all of them.

The only thing is i wish the zune hd had loud speakers This means i need to use this app with a headphone or connected to a speaker system.



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I already have the images when the keys are pressed but shadow wont be changed because it is part of the white key image. I can do the black key and add a drop shadow and make it a transparent png but the dimensions of it will be bigger so if i press the shadow part on the white key this will trigger the black key instead of the white one get it?

Anyways we dont have to worry bout that until somebody will code it. I really want it to have full 88keys so u can toggle through all of them.

The only thing is i wish the zune hd had loud speakers This means i need to use this app with a headphone or connected to a speaker system.
Ohh, yea man i get it... makes perfect sense
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Does anybody play the piano? (i want a piano app but dont play it..lol)
I have a question if you do...How would i break down the 88 keys of the keyboard? I saw a piano app for the touch and it says C4,C5,F5 im not sure how this works...The piano app im making will fit 8 white keys per screen...I can do one octave but the thing is there is A0,A0#,B0 and C8...should i just leave them out? This will make the keyboard 84keys instead of 88



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@Lordwin, I told you I would if noone else does.
WRT the keys it doesnt matter if the shadow is in the black keys png with transparency. No one forces you to have the hitbox in line with an image.
So yeah make transparent shadows in the black keys.
And sound isnt a problem.
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i would be interested in doing this project. I have a bunch of vst pianos that I could sample.

for doing all 88 keys, you could select the Root note (F for example) and the octave. So F3 would be the third octave of F on the keyboard.

And I play a little piano and know a bit of music theory.

Here's what you do.... create the entire keyboard and have a touch area at the top strip of the screen that allows you to move the keyboard left and right. You would just need some identifiers on the some keys so you knew what octaves you were in, C1, C2, C3 for example. You could select the root note in the app and dynamically change the identifiers. Or you could select multiple notes and have identifiers pop up for those specific notes plus their octaves.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
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So there is a way to assign a specific area in an image to trigger a button...I just finished a shadow that changes when black keys are pressed Now the image size of the black key overlaps the white key area, this wouldnt affect it?

The keyboard on top is where you select an octave
The plan is for it to be slidable for a specific octave or tap a C octave to jump there Its going to be a very basic piano app
I was thinking of making the main keyboard (the one that plays notes) to be slidable too but not very sensitive so it doesnt slide accidentally.



You guys think this would work? I dont play the piano so i wouldnt know..lol

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you could use the pressure property... something about more pressure on the nice oled screen gives me a chill, though
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OHhh and have the ability to write a song and watch it be played!! That would be cool.
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lordwin, you are brilliant.
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It's ideas like this that make me hate that my HD doesn't play apps. This is brilliant, art looks great. Wow. I play piano so this is pretty exciting to see
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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OHhh and have the ability to write a song and watch it be played!! That would be cool.
Im not sure how hard would this be in the code but for right now, the plan is jus a basic 88 key piano. There is always room for improvement

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It's ideas like this that make me hate that my HD doesn't play apps. This is brilliant, art looks great. Wow. I play piano so this is pretty exciting to see
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What do u mean ur HD doesnt play apps?
I know right now we dont have lots of game and apps selection but i know sooner we will have more.



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OHhh and have the ability to write a song and watch it be played!! That would be cool.
Even better: include a very simple yet functional sequencer to write in notes the way many modern DAW's do!

As an electronic musician myself, I know that if I had a way of writing down tunes wherever I am so I don't forget it, and have a way to easily replicate it later, this would make my Zune HD more valuable than any other game, video or song could make it!

I don't know how hard a sequencer would be to code, but I know it would really make this app a lot better. In fact, I would pay for a sequencer on my Zune! I get excited just thinking about it! Seriously, you have no idea how many times I've been sitting somewhere and think "Man, I really wish I could jot down a tune to put in a song I'm working on..." and I have no way of doing so. Then that little idea, that spark of life I could've added to my music is gone and never to return again. Siiigh.

I don't know how many electronic musicians on Zune Boards, but I know you know exactly what I'm talking about: a sequencer on the Zune would prove to be invaluable!

I understand that it may be difficult to code, but I would eternally grateful if someone took the extra time and effort to implement such a feature. Meow!
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Since you guys know more about the piano...what do you guys think about the layout? any suggestions?



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My HD resets whenever I choose a user-made app...
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Since you guys know more about the piano...what do you guys think about the layout? any suggestions?
Since you asked, I decided to load the image onto my Zune and pretend to play a little. I would highly suggest making the black keys like, half the size. I found it difficult to keep my fingers from touching the black keys when I wasn't trying to - there's simply too small of a space for the white keys.
Other than that, very solid.

Pianists usually find octaves by C, though. Try instead labeling each C by their octave (ie. C-1, C0, C1, C2, C3 (middle C), etc). Not really a big deal, but, meh, it would at least make it that much more navigable.

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It's supposed to do that. Your zHD works fine.
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:28 AM   #20 (permalink)
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^ about the black keys, do you want them smaller in height or width?
What im thinking is less height so there is more space for the bottom white keys. Is that right? Or do you want then skinnier so u could use the space between black keys?

About octaves, what i did is change the colors every C octave so its easier to recognize. i tried putting the C0, C1 (i thought there is only C1 to C8 and middle C is C4) etc on top of the small keyboard but it didnt work out too good as it blocks the view of it and might be harder to scroll to another octave like F4, F5...so what i did is everytime you slide the keyboard the first white key is always indicated so you know which octave you are on

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