Request: Transfer w/o DRM?

brodkil · 08-04-2008, 11:15 AM

I was just thinking, since it's possible to play games with music playing in the background and there are instant messanger programs, would it be possible to create an application to send songs without the 3-day limit, or possibly trick the receiving Zune into not removing it after the time limit?

Justananomaly · 08-04-2008, 11:20 AM

Can try this, I have not tried it in a very long time, but it should still work.

afnan · 08-04-2008, 12:18 PM

once i did do it more than 3 days it went for like a few weeks idk i think it was a glitch or something but in those weeks i kept my zune off

LedZepp · 08-04-2008, 02:08 PM

The 3 days part from the 3 days 3 plays was removed with 2.0 firmware, you can still only listen to the song 3 times but you can keep them forever.

To the thread creator:
No, with XNA you are only given access to the media player, not the actual songs, what you can do is stream the music(Create a radio type app that others that are connected to you can listen too, at least i think you can) but you cant actually send songs or receive them as files

brodkil · 08-04-2008, 02:25 PM

That's what I was hoping for: access to the individual songs. I doubt a radio stream would be a good option b/c of power. The constant wi-fi communication to stream wouldn't be good on the battery life. Oh well, it was just an idea. Thanks for the input.

werny · 08-05-2008, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepp

The 3 days part from the 3 days 3 plays was removed with 2.0 firmware, you can still only listen to the song 3 times but you can keep them forever.

To the thread creator:
No, with XNA you are only given access to the media player, not the actual songs, what you can do is stream the music(Create a radio type app that others that are connected to you can listen too, at least i think you can) but you cant actually send songs or receive them as files

through XNA could you change a change a songs genre to podcast?

itsnotabigtruck · 08-05-2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepp

The 3 days part from the 3 days 3 plays was removed with 2.0 firmware, you can still only listen to the song 3 times but you can keep them forever.

To the thread creator:
No, with XNA you are only given access to the media player, not the actual songs, what you can do is stream the music(Create a radio type app that others that are connected to you can listen too, at least i think you can) but you cant actually send songs or receive them as files

Unfortunately, even that would be impossible, as XNA doesn't support buffered audio playback. Also, I haven't experimented with the "visualization data" much, but I don't think it gives you enough data to actually reconstruct the audio anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by werny

through XNA could you change a change a songs genre to podcast?

The XNA MediaLibrary is read-only.

LedZepp · 08-05-2008, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by werny

through XNA could you change a change a songs genre to podcast?

no, you cant edit anything outside of the games folder

werny · 08-05-2008, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepp

no, you cant edit anything outside of the games folder

thats what I kinda thought, some day someone smart (not me) will come up with a hack to easily send any piece of music without restrictions

itsnotabigtruck · 08-05-2008, 07:59 PM

I just realized that this would be possible for files not in the library. If the file was deployed to the Zune along with the transfer app (possibly using the RIG platform), it could be sent from Zune to Zune w/o restriction. Furthermore, it would be possible to play received (non-DRM) music in the app, as the Song class supports loading music from files in addition to the MediaLibrary.

08-04-2008, 11:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
brodkil Zewbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2 Reputation: 10	Request: Transfer w/o DRM? I was just thinking, since it's possible to play games with music playing in the background and there are instant messanger programs, would it be possible to create an application to send songs without the 3-day limit, or possibly trick the receiving Zune into not removing it after the time limit?

08-04-2008, 11:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
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08-04-2008, 02:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
brodkil Zewbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2 Reputation: 10	aww That's what I was hoping for: access to the individual songs. I doubt a radio stream would be a good option b/c of power. The constant wi-fi communication to stream wouldn't be good on the battery life. Oh well, it was just an idea. Thanks for the input.

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itsnotabigtruck you lost the game. zB Programmer Section Staff Zune Freak Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,216 Reputation: 462 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	I just realized that this would be possible for files not in the library. If the file was deployed to the Zune along with the transfer app (possibly using the RIG platform), it could be sent from Zune to Zune w/o restriction. Furthermore, it would be possible to play received (non-DRM) music in the app, as the Song class supports loading music from files in addition to the MediaLibrary. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. signature by To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-04-2008, 12:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
afnan Zewbie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7 Reputation: 10	once i did do it more than 3 days it went for like a few weeks idk i think it was a glitch or something but in those weeks i kept my zune off

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