[In Progress] Chess

Deiparous · 08-03-2008, 05:41 PM

I forget how many things I'm working on currently...

I'm going to make a nice general form of chess, one that should cover all bases. It'll have multiple chess sets/boards, have support for variants, have AI, do wireless, and do two players on one Zune.

However like usual I need some help with graphics, especially since this'll need multiple sets and boards.

Also if someone knows something about chess AIs, since I know nothing in terms of algorithms for chess AI...

Netrix · 08-03-2008, 06:03 PM

Awesome. There are chess algorithms that are already made for C# that you could possibly use. I imagine it would be fairly difficult to write your own.

Robert13 · 08-03-2008, 06:58 PM

I want checkers too...but either is great.

Deiparous · 08-03-2008, 07:02 PM

You know, with how much support I'm going to put in variants, this could probably support checkers...

The thing I'm looking at currently is the AI side. I found an engine in C# called SharpChess, which was discontinued and is nice and basic. I think I might email the author and see about being able to use it, once I try it out a little more to make sure it'll work

MehStrongBadMeh · 08-03-2008, 09:14 PM

I could make some graphics for you.

Just tell me the dimensions of the parts you want me to make (board, pieces, background, etc.).

Deiparous · 08-03-2008, 09:33 PM

I haven't gotten that far honestly.

A rough estimation puts the board at somewhere around 200x200, which puts each square at 25x25, and each piece has to fit in there well. Each piece has to be a seperate part.

For graphics I plan on a consistent naming system like "pawnblack.png" and "board.png" and "background.jpg" or something like that and each different style goes into its own directory and the directory name is the name of the file, so each directory gets listed in the "chose a board style screen" so everything needs to be consistent, board has to be the same size in every style and such.

Honestly, I'd appreciate some general mock-ups if you will, I won't get to that part for a while.

(-_-) · 08-03-2008, 09:39 PM

Awesome man! I can't wait for Chess. Especially over wifi, this will be nice. Hehe, but how many projects do you have going now? I count at least 3.

ESPKH2 · 08-04-2008, 08:38 PM

Nice! Finally someone is taking the initiative in doing this.

Hawthorne · 08-05-2008, 03:49 AM

Why not make the program support a number of board games as mentiones - Chess, Checkers, Backgammon and so on.

Chess is very difficult as the styles and moves are immense, while Checkers and Backgammon are less difficult from my point of view

Chess - lots of moves, lots of types and styles of play.
Checkers - not so much moves, but still a lot of them
Backgammon - defined moves depending on the numbers you get, in my point of view only 3-4 styles of play and depending on luck and changing between these styles while playing.

Deiparous · 08-05-2008, 10:31 AM

Well backgammon is pretty different from chess and checkers, and honestly I don't even know how to play backgammon

133794m3r · 08-05-2008, 05:25 PM

Nurta you are now my hero... what levels of AI will there be?

bleuFunk · 08-05-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurta

Well backgammon is pretty different from chess and checkers, and honestly I don't even know how to play backgammon

I'm working on a Backgammon game right now. I had to pull away from it for a bit to work on some other projects, but i should be able to get back into it soon. It's pretty close to an alpha or beta release though.

Deiparous · 08-05-2008, 08:59 PM

Good, then I don't have to worry about it

Robert13 · 08-05-2008, 09:16 PM

Could make it into like a board game suite type thing...

itsnotabigtruck · 08-05-2008, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert13

Could make it into like a board game suite type thing...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawthorne

Why not make the program support a number of board games as mentiones - Chess, Checkers, Backgammon and so on.

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This sounds like it could be pretty awesome. No matter how lame the AI it comes with will be, it'll still probably be able to pwn me at chess

Robert13 · 08-06-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by itsnotabigtruck

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This sounds like it could be pretty awesome. No matter how lame the AI it comes with will be, it'll still probably be able to pwn me at chess

Oops, didn't see his post. I suck at them, and never understood backgammon but this could be great especially if someone decides to help him out with it.

Volpe Sinatra · 08-06-2008, 12:54 AM

I think I may have to set my Zune up for games for this..

Mr. Munke · 08-06-2008, 01:34 AM

word i love chess umm i'll throw some rough gfx down

08-03-2008, 05:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Deiparous ad majorem dei gloriam Administrator Ultimate Zuner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,613 Reputation: 474 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	[In Progress] Chess I forget how many things I'm working on currently... I'm going to make a nice general form of chess, one that should cover all bases. It'll have multiple chess sets/boards, have support for variants, have AI, do wireless, and do two players on one Zune. However like usual I need some help with graphics, especially since this'll need multiple sets and boards. Also if someone knows something about chess AIs, since I know nothing in terms of algorithms for chess AI... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Deiparous ad majorem dei gloriam Administrator Ultimate Zuner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,613 Reputation: 474 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	You know, with how much support I'm going to put in variants, this could probably support checkers... The thing I'm looking at currently is the AI side. I found an engine in C# called SharpChess, which was discontinued and is nice and basic. I think I might email the author and see about being able to use it, once I try it out a little more to make sure it'll work __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Deiparous ad majorem dei gloriam Administrator Ultimate Zuner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,613 Reputation: 474 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	I haven't gotten that far honestly. A rough estimation puts the board at somewhere around 200x200, which puts each square at 25x25, and each piece has to fit in there well. Each piece has to be a seperate part. For graphics I plan on a consistent naming system like "pawnblack.png" and "board.png" and "background.jpg" or something like that and each different style goes into its own directory and the directory name is the name of the file, so each directory gets listed in the "chose a board style screen" so everything needs to be consistent, board has to be the same size in every style and such. Honestly, I'd appreciate some general mock-ups if you will, I won't get to that part for a while. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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(-_-) Support Team Expert Zuner Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,930 Reputation: 189	Awesome man! I can't wait for Chess. Especially over wifi, this will be nice. Hehe, but how many projects do you have going now? I count at least 3. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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ESPKH2 Experienced Zuner Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 112 Reputation: 14	Nice! Finally someone is taking the initiative in doing this.

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Hawthorne Squirt Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 25 Reputation: 10	Why not make the program support a number of board games as mentiones - Chess, Checkers, Backgammon and so on. Chess is very difficult as the styles and moves are immense, while Checkers and Backgammon are less difficult from my point of view Chess - lots of moves, lots of types and styles of play. Checkers - not so much moves, but still a lot of them Backgammon - defined moves depending on the numbers you get, in my point of view only 3-4 styles of play and depending on luck and changing between these styles while playing.

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Deiparous ad majorem dei gloriam Administrator Ultimate Zuner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,613 Reputation: 474 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Well backgammon is pretty different from chess and checkers, and honestly I don't even know how to play backgammon __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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