[In Progress] Light Cycle Game + 3d engine - Page 2

DiNoGames · 07-04-2008, 05:22 AM

Great stuff so far... a 3D software renderer is a cool thing, even if it "just" can draw lines... imagine games like the first Elite and such.... +Rep

soccerfreak24 · 07-04-2008, 01:33 PM

Forgot to mention, +rep for you.

Manticore-X · 07-04-2008, 02:40 PM

Just a heads up, I am adding another youtube video to the front page. I feel it gives a better idea just what the engine can do! It will be there in a few minutes when it finishes processing. This was recorded on my computer using FRAPS. The FPS is higher than it runs on zune, but lower than it normally runs on comp due to the recording

ZeroCool2021 · 07-04-2008, 03:00 PM

OMG! I just saw your 2nd video, This would be PERFECT For Tron!!!
PERFECT!
Is that what you had in mind for this game?

I was bored so I made these with Photoshop

Manticore-X · 07-04-2008, 03:09 PM

lol yea, its tron, thats what i meant by lightcycles, sorry if i wasnt clear :P

ZeroCool2021 · 07-04-2008, 03:20 PM

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lol yea, its tron, thats what i meant by lightcycles, sorry if i wasnt clear :P

I LOVE YOU! I can't Wait! I love Tron! "I can't believe I didn't notice "light cycle" LOL
I'm not good with programming but I'd like to think I'm good with photoshop, So if you need/want help with menus and such, I would LOVE to help.
"Do you like my concept art" ???

Manticore-X · 07-04-2008, 03:32 PM

Heh, glad to hear you are excited. Anyways, yea I like the menus, but I am actually planning on having just bots running behind the menus so it is animated with the camera static above (if it works out). So I am not thinking I would really need any gfx help. Thank you for the offer and if I do end up needing anything I would love the help.

Spike! · 07-04-2008, 04:23 PM

Nice job. Not only is it an accomplishment in itself as a Proof-of-Concept, it's also(or will be) a fully playable game that actaully looks like it'll be alot of fun.

daneboyzzz · 07-04-2008, 07:39 PM

Great good Manticore

I believe you have created something brilliant. Hope your game comes out well.

ZeroCool2021 · 07-04-2008, 08:34 PM

In the 2nd video, It looks like the only view that would work "and look good", would be the last view from the top. "The 2D sprites would look horrible if it was 1st person"
unless you make a new sprite for every angle...

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Also if anyone wants to see the code let me know. If I recognize your name I'll be happy to share.

Yes, please share...

Manticore-X · 07-05-2008, 03:10 AM

Personally I enjoy all three viewpoints. Firstperson is more difficult (imo), 3rd person looks the coolest, overhead gives an oldschool/newschool kind of look.

As for the sprites, I am (as of right now) planning on doing it, as my friend likes to put it, Starcraft style. Different sprite for each angle(well each direction, not each smaller angle) and different sprites for each view. This might end up looking bad so I would have to try something else. Worst comes to worse the lines dont look to bad alone right? :P

And regarding the code. PM me if you want it. Right now I do not want it public yet.

ZeroCool2021 · 07-05-2008, 11:18 PM

Thumbnail for the game

I was bored...

Check this out, I love it!
http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008...classic-l.html

Manticore-X · 07-06-2008, 05:55 AM

Ok, I think I need to make a couple things totally clear right now. (if any of this comes across as rude I do not mean it to, I just woke up :P )

1. This is really early in development for the most part. To address your first point, the trail is erased when you hit your own or enemy's wall. If you hit the outside you stay fine. Why? Because this is in there to help me figure out glitches. In the final game it doesnt matter. You hit it, you die

2. I am not sure what you mean by perfectly straight. If you mean that the line looks bent sometimes it has nothing to do on my part. It is a combination of how we get the 3d points, how we draw lines, and how the grid can be drawn on any float (if you dont understand this it doesnt matter) whereas you can only draw points to int pixels.

3. This is kind of unimportant to the game right now. One day they might lower, but they might just dissapear. It doesnt matter. Right now I am focusing on getting the game to work, the AI decent, multiplayer working, and other things that are core to the game

Also to any who wants to make graphics for the game. Please talk to me first. I know people want to help out, but my friend and I have most of it under control (Unless you are an AI wiz, please talk to me!! :P).

If you want to talk to me about anything you can PM me or reach me at AIM: Manticore0X

Thanks for all the support guys, and once again I hope this isnt coming off the wrong way to anyone.

Oh and one more thing, for the couple people that have the game please give me feedback privately. Thanks! (because I really do love the feedback!)

ZeroCool2021 · 07-06-2008, 11:33 AM

Quote:

for the couple people that have the game please give me feedback privately. Thanks!

Sry, I'll PM you if I have any others
"I know this is very early stage's, I was just trying to help"

dabeastofdamusic · 07-06-2008, 05:39 PM

awsome this is gonna be sick!

:!

!

Manticore-X · 07-10-2008, 12:36 AM

I need the people's opinion on where to go next. I have a basic AI in place (It would never really win), but it needs a lot of work to become a challenge. I personally the nature of this game lends more to a multiplayer experience, but most people don't even know other people with zunes, thus limiting the amount of fun they could have with the game.

So the question, which is more desired to you, better AI or Multiplayer? Both will come eventually, but im curious which I should focus more on. So if you could, let me know your opinion and why.

Thanks!

DiNoGames · 07-10-2008, 01:33 AM

Better AI

I am from germany and I can't play against someone else (because there are no Zunes here)

ZeroCool2021 · 07-10-2008, 02:55 AM

I think better AI is more importent,
Even if i knew people with zunes, I would still rather playing the AI.
But this will definetly make a Great multiplayer game.

Ricardo Dawkins · 07-10-2008, 06:52 AM

a vote for AI. as Dino, I'm outside USA and can't use any multiplayer feature of the Zune games.

unknown005 · 07-10-2008, 08:12 AM

wow. i never expected the zune could handle that much. maybe i should go look at the hardware specs...

can't wait for this, it looks AMAZING

07-04-2008, 05:22 AM	#21 (permalink)
DiNoGames zB Programmer Jr. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bremen, germany Posts: 454 Reputation: 246	Great stuff so far... a 3D software renderer is a cool thing, even if it "just" can draw lines... imagine games like the first Elite and such.... +Rep __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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07-04-2008, 02:40 PM	#23 (permalink)
Manticore-X Zuner Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 57 Reputation: 44	Just a heads up, I am adding another youtube video to the front page. I feel it gives a better idea just what the engine can do! It will be there in a few minutes when it finishes processing. This was recorded on my computer using FRAPS. The FPS is higher than it runs on zune, but lower than it normally runs on comp due to the recording Last edited by Manticore-X : 07-04-2008 at 02:42 PM.

07-04-2008, 03:00 PM	#24 (permalink)
ZeroCool2021 Jr. Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Zune land Posts: 261 Reputation: 14	OMG! I just saw your 2nd video, This would be PERFECT For Tron!!! PERFECT! Is that what you had in mind for this game? I was bored so I made these with Photoshop __________________ Check out my site "Work In Progress" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by ZeroCool2021 : 07-04-2008 at 03:03 PM.

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07-04-2008, 03:09 PM	#25 (permalink)
Manticore-X Zuner Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 57 Reputation: 44	lol yea, its tron, thats what i meant by lightcycles, sorry if i wasnt clear :P

07-04-2008, 03:32 PM	#27 (permalink)
Manticore-X Zuner Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 57 Reputation: 44	Heh, glad to hear you are excited. Anyways, yea I like the menus, but I am actually planning on having just bots running behind the menus so it is animated with the camera static above (if it works out). So I am not thinking I would really need any gfx help. Thank you for the offer and if I do end up needing anything I would love the help.

07-04-2008, 04:23 PM	#28 (permalink)
Spike! Experienced Zuner Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 175 Reputation: 13	Nice job. Not only is it an accomplishment in itself as a Proof-of-Concept, it's also(or will be) a fully playable game that actaully looks like it'll be alot of fun.

07-05-2008, 03:10 AM	#31 (permalink)
Manticore-X Zuner Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 57 Reputation: 44	Personally I enjoy all three viewpoints. Firstperson is more difficult (imo), 3rd person looks the coolest, overhead gives an oldschool/newschool kind of look. As for the sprites, I am (as of right now) planning on doing it, as my friend likes to put it, Starcraft style. Different sprite for each angle(well each direction, not each smaller angle) and different sprites for each view. This might end up looking bad so I would have to try something else. Worst comes to worse the lines dont look to bad alone right? :P And regarding the code. PM me if you want it. Right now I do not want it public yet.

07-05-2008, 11:18 PM	#32 (permalink)
ZeroCool2021 Jr. Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Zune land Posts: 261 Reputation: 14	Thumbnail for the game I was bored... Check this out, I love it! http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008...classic-l.html __________________ Check out my site "Work In Progress" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by ZeroCool2021 : 07-06-2008 at 07:58 PM.

07-06-2008, 05:55 AM	#33 (permalink)
Manticore-X Zuner Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 57 Reputation: 44	Ok, I think I need to make a couple things totally clear right now. (if any of this comes across as rude I do not mean it to, I just woke up :P ) 1. This is really early in development for the most part. To address your first point, the trail is erased when you hit your own or enemy's wall. If you hit the outside you stay fine. Why? Because this is in there to help me figure out glitches. In the final game it doesnt matter. You hit it, you die 2. I am not sure what you mean by perfectly straight. If you mean that the line looks bent sometimes it has nothing to do on my part. It is a combination of how we get the 3d points, how we draw lines, and how the grid can be drawn on any float (if you dont understand this it doesnt matter) whereas you can only draw points to int pixels. 3. This is kind of unimportant to the game right now. One day they might lower, but they might just dissapear. It doesnt matter. Right now I am focusing on getting the game to work, the AI decent, multiplayer working, and other things that are core to the game Also to any who wants to make graphics for the game. Please talk to me first. I know people want to help out, but my friend and I have most of it under control (Unless you are an AI wiz, please talk to me!! :P). If you want to talk to me about anything you can PM me or reach me at AIM: Manticore0X Thanks for all the support guys, and once again I hope this isnt coming off the wrong way to anyone. Oh and one more thing, for the couple people that have the game please give me feedback privately. Thanks! (because I really do love the feedback!) Last edited by Manticore-X : 07-06-2008 at 06:14 AM.

07-06-2008, 05:39 PM	#35 (permalink)
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07-10-2008, 12:36 AM	#36 (permalink)
Manticore-X Zuner Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 57 Reputation: 44	I need the people's opinion on where to go next. I have a basic AI in place (It would never really win), but it needs a lot of work to become a challenge. I personally the nature of this game lends more to a multiplayer experience, but most people don't even know other people with zunes, thus limiting the amount of fun they could have with the game. So the question, which is more desired to you, better AI or Multiplayer? Both will come eventually, but im curious which I should focus more on. So if you could, let me know your opinion and why. Thanks!

07-10-2008, 01:33 AM	#37 (permalink)
DiNoGames zB Programmer Jr. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bremen, germany Posts: 454 Reputation: 246	Better AI I am from germany and I can't play against someone else (because there are no Zunes here) __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-10-2008, 02:55 AM	#38 (permalink)
ZeroCool2021 Jr. Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Zune land Posts: 261 Reputation: 14	I think better AI is more importent, Even if i knew people with zunes, I would still rather playing the AI. But this will definetly make a Great multiplayer game. __________________ Check out my site "Work In Progress" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by ZeroCool2021 : 07-10-2008 at 08:19 PM.

07-10-2008, 06:52 AM	#39 (permalink)
Ricardo Dawkins Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 362 Reputation: 30	a vote for AI. as Dino, I'm outside USA and can't use any multiplayer feature of the Zune games. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Black Zune 80 & Samsung YH-J70 + Zune 80 Premium + AKG K26p + JVC HA-FX33 Blue -Marshmallows- *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

07-10-2008, 08:12 AM	#40 (permalink)
unknown005 Zewbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9 Reputation: 10	wow. i never expected the zune could handle that much. maybe i should go look at the hardware specs... can't wait for this, it looks AMAZING

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