Performance: 30GB vs 4/8/80GB

SimReality · 06-20-2008, 09:52 AM

One of the XNA program managers Michael Klucher explains the performance differences between the Zunes: http://klucher.com/archive/2008/06/2...-8-and-80.aspx

I've opened up a Connect suggestion for an option to temporarily disable these features. If you want to see an option go in for allowing this, please register and vote on the issue here: https://connect.microsoft.com/feedba...193&SiteID=226

jackluo923 · 06-20-2008, 10:21 AM

Cool...Looks like your speculations were right.

btw. The mS connect page doesn't work.

According to my calculations
Zune 80/8/4 has approximately 76% if the processing power as zune 30.

sableholic · 06-20-2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackluo923

Cool...Looks like your speculations were right.

btw. The mS connect page doesn't work.

According to my calculations
Zune 80/8/4 has approximately 76% if the processing power as zune 30.

MS connect page does work, you just have to login.

jackluo923 · 06-20-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sableholic

MS connect page does work, you just have to login.

Logged in as in logging in the .NET passport thing? I set my account to auto login so i dont' know. I"ll try again.

I went to the site and it says this

Page Not Found

The content that you requested cannot be found or you do not have permission to view it.

If you believe you have reached this page in error, click the Help link at the top of the page to report the issue and include this ID in your e-mail: c20b6f6e-6c79-45e0-94bd-c752a0629113

Microsoft Connect welcome page.

SimReality · 06-20-2008, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackluo923

btw. The mS connect page doesn't work.

As said above, you have to register and login to vote.

Quote:

According to my calculations
Zune 80/8/4 has approximately 76% if the processing power as zune 30.

No need to calculate. Michael posted the exact figures:

Quote:

However the processor in the Zune V2 runs at 399Mhz compared to that of 524Mhz on the Zune 30.

So it's 125Mhz slower.

See here for instructions on how to get set up on Connect: http://forums.xna.com/forums/t/414.aspx

jackluo923 · 06-20-2008, 11:25 AM

I wish someone would think of a solution so you (SimReality) could continue developing the zune shooter game.

cable729 · 06-22-2008, 11:02 PM

maybe if a post was edited it should show as unread, would be pretty useful (and maybe another link for last edited post)

Netrix · 06-22-2008, 11:11 PM

One advantage that the 30 GB Zuners have.

LedZepp · 06-22-2008, 11:23 PM

I was planning on getting an 80 gig zune this summer but this is throwing me off quite a bit. Ill stick to my 30 until the holiday release of xna to see if this is fixed or not, and decide then

Ricardo Dawkins · 06-23-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netrix

One advantage that the 30 GB Zuners have.

I SOLD MY ZUNE 30. arrrgggghhh! Hope this is resolved.

theVDude · 06-26-2008, 11:03 AM

Wow. To start, +1.

You guys really need to learn to get along.

lpxxfaintxx · 06-28-2008, 02:21 PM

Seriously guys? Come on, let's get logical here. Never knew how uptight people can get with double posts, cause honestly, there are always those times when you just need to double post. Who cares?

kniller · 06-29-2008, 07:58 AM

alright this may be a stupid question, and will probably get a stupid response but here it goes. Is the zune 80/8/4 processor underclocked, or is the chip physically "less powerful" compared to the zune 30.

Tiptup300 · 06-29-2008, 09:10 AM

The cpu is slightly slower than the 30, but this isn't what is causing the lag. The 2nd gen renders at a slower pace.

06-20-2008, 09:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
SimReality Jr. Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 410 Reputation: 60 $zB: 353 Donate	One of the XNA program managers Michael Klucher explains the performance differences between the Zunes: http://klucher.com/archive/2008/06/2...-8-and-80.aspx I've opened up a Connect suggestion for an option to temporarily disable these features. If you want to see an option go in for allowing this, please register and vote on the issue here: https://connect.microsoft.com/feedba...193&SiteID=226 Last edited by CameleonMK : 06-20-2008 at 10:43 AM. Reason: double post.

06-20-2008, 10:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
jackluo923 Senior Zuner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver BC Posts: 1,275 Reputation: 122 $zB: 759 Donate	Cool...Looks like your speculations were right. btw. The mS connect page doesn't work. According to my calculations Zune 80/8/4 has approximately 76% if the processing power as zune 30. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by jackluo923 : 06-20-2008 at 10:24 AM.

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06-22-2008, 11:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
LedZepp zB Programmer Experienced Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 975 Reputation: 116 $zB: 635 Donate	I was planning on getting an 80 gig zune this summer but this is throwing me off quite a bit. Ill stick to my 30 until the holiday release of xna to see if this is fixed or not, and decide then __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

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06-22-2008, 11:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
cable729 Experienced Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 207 Reputation: 12 $zB: 170 Donate	maybe if a post was edited it should show as unread, would be pretty useful (and maybe another link for last edited post)

06-26-2008, 11:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
theVDude Zuner Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 54 Reputation: 19 $zB: 42 Donate	Wow. To start, +1. You guys really need to learn to get along. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-28-2008, 02:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
lpxxfaintxx Administrator Ultimate Zuner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 5,821 Reputation: 209 $zB: 2044 Donate	Seriously guys? Come on, let's get logical here. Never knew how uptight people can get with double posts, cause honestly, there are always those times when you just need to double post. Who cares? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-29-2008, 07:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
kniller Squirt Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 23 Reputation: 10 $zB: 21 Donate	alright this may be a stupid question, and will probably get a stupid response but here it goes. Is the zune 80/8/4 processor underclocked, or is the chip physically "less powerful" compared to the zune 30.

06-29-2008, 09:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
Tiptup300 Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 386 Reputation: 114 $zB: 285 Donate	The cpu is slightly slower than the 30, but this isn't what is causing the lag. The 2nd gen renders at a slower pace.

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