[WIP] Zune Shooter - Page 3

birdman · 06-12-2008, 11:27 PM

only 3000fps? WEAKSAUCE! lol j/k

that looks really promising as a game. Especially if the walls give you a seizure by changing from blue to granite looking like it was at :51

EPILEPSY FTW!!

cable729 · 06-13-2008, 10:21 AM

that's awesome, and 3000 fps?!?! ...omg... (wow)

tenritsu · 06-13-2008, 10:30 AM

Wow... this is awesome... GOOD JOB!

skyroket · 06-13-2008, 11:00 AM

I am so psyched for this--although eventually, it better have wireless play...

but we must stop and realize that doing games like this is EXTREMELY HARD and can be frustrating-i can imagine-so, THANK YOU to everyone who has ever created a game for those of us that dont know how, that we may be entertained with the zune beyond all expectations...THANKS!! Also thanks to those who are in the process of making games and to those will continue to make them. Just sayin'...if it weren't for these guys and gals, we wouldn't have games...(unless microsoft finally grows up and gets us some.)

nashtok · 06-13-2008, 11:06 AM

You will be the most popular guy here if you get this working!

SimReality · 06-13-2008, 11:12 AM

Update time! Sprites are now in the engine. Some optimizations need to be made, but it does run, by and large, at playable speed on the Zune. I also have the map being loaded from a file making it easy to test out new ideas and I plan to make a level editor at some point.

Next up is all the game logic. Firing the gun, reloading, killing bad guys. The usual stuff

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And again these are all placeholder sprites. I am not remaking Doom here. I plan to find some free sprites (or get some made) when I get closer to having a working game (i.e. before releasing it).

YouTube - Zune Shooter Part 3

soccerfreak24 · 06-13-2008, 11:15 AM

NICE UPDATE!! Games looking great. I'm really excited to see the next version, with game logic. The bad guys look like lulz atm as well. ;D

skyroket · 06-13-2008, 01:25 PM

please please please can they not be ugly alien-dr. jekyl/mr.hide type bad guys? CAn you make it like the N64 007-golden eye game please!!! Where you have to find and eliminate another assassin-type game....or you 're like Jason Bourne!! THat'd be even better

just a thought

SimReality · 06-14-2008, 08:02 PM

After lots of thought, frustration, and experimentation, I have canceled the shooter. However the engine has now been open-sourced for anyone to use: http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dev...tml#post247119.

From that page, my reasons why I'm done with the shooter:

Quote:

I have decided to stop working on that project for a couple reasons:
1) Performance on the Zune just couldn't keep up and I'm too pre-occupied with DreamBuildPlay (http://dreambuildplay.com/main/default.aspx) to spend much time with it.
2) It really isn't that fun.

Controls on the Zune just aren't fun for playing a first person shooter.

ShotgunSnipist · 06-14-2008, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimReality

After lots of thought, frustration, and experimentation, I have canceled the shooter. However the engine has now been open-sourced for anyone to use: http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dev...tml#post247119.

From that page, my reasons why I'm done with the shooter:

That's depressing.
I just stumbled upon this post for the first time today and though it was the coolest thing ever just to see that your cancelling it...
Oh well, I guess your right. Not enough controls. But it would still be really fun!

soccerfreak24 · 06-14-2008, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimReality

After lots of thought, frustration, and experimentation, I have canceled the shooter. However the engine has now been open-sourced for anyone to use: http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/dev...tml#post247119.

From that page, my reasons why I'm done with the shooter:

The Undead · 06-14-2008, 11:48 PM

Ill mess with it when im done with my projects, however I do not think anything will come out of it, I just dont have the skillz

zunebro · 06-15-2008, 03:07 AM

i guess that potato chase engine is more efficient and hopefully they'll release it with the new api's

skyroket · 06-15-2008, 10:03 AM

that sucks...i was really hoping for a firstperson shooter. *Depressed*

seifer93 · 06-16-2008, 02:05 PM

Very cool, someone please continue this game.

skyroket · 06-17-2008, 06:18 AM

i agree^

db_ · 06-20-2008, 10:05 PM

there are 3 basic buttons correct ... aside from the back button... id set the back button for menu controls.. and the dpad click for something else and have the play/pause for shoot. just a thought... i wouldnt trash the project just cause of controls .. i can understand having more than one project on hand though.

jackluo923 · 06-20-2008, 10:07 PM

He didn't "trash" the project because of the controls. The main reason is that his zune ( zune 8) is too slow for this code.

lilborat724 · 06-20-2008, 10:30 PM

Back button for menu, changing weapons.
Play/pause for shooting.
Center button for grenades.
Rest of DPad for moving.
Button problem solved.

Either way, good job so far!

SimReality · 06-20-2008, 10:35 PM

The reason was primarily Dream Build Play. Not controls. Not performance. Those were reasons, but neither were the main ones.

I actually had an idea of how to optimize things a bit. I found out that while the Draw method on a gen 2 device is only called 30 times per second (due to the screen refresh rate), Update supposedly still gets called 60 times per second. So if I can move most of the rendering logic to an Update method it should run faster. I'll give it a shot in the next few days to see if it helps at all. I still won't take the shooter project on because DreamBuildPlay gets most of my attention days. But I'll update RaycasterX if it works.

06-12-2008, 11:27 PM	#41 (permalink)
birdman Zune Guardian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: earth Posts: 758 Reputation: 65	only 3000fps? WEAKSAUCE! lol j/k that looks really promising as a game. Especially if the walls give you a seizure by changing from blue to granite looking like it was at :51 EPILEPSY FTW!! __________________ I don't like you.

06-13-2008, 10:30 AM	#43 (permalink)
tenritsu Experienced Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 183 Reputation: 13	Wow... this is awesome... GOOD JOB! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-13-2008, 11:00 AM	#44 (permalink)
skyroket Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 92 Reputation: 11	I am so psyched for this--although eventually, it better have wireless play... but we must stop and realize that doing games like this is EXTREMELY HARD and can be frustrating-i can imagine-so, THANK YOU to everyone who has ever created a game for those of us that dont know how, that we may be entertained with the zune beyond all expectations...THANKS!! Also thanks to those who are in the process of making games and to those will continue to make them. Just sayin'...if it weren't for these guys and gals, we wouldn't have games...(unless microsoft finally grows up and gets us some.) __________________ Yes, I believe in God.

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soccerfreak24 Support Team Expert Zuner Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,928 Reputation: 189	NICE UPDATE!! Games looking great. I'm really excited to see the next version, with game logic. The bad guys look like lulz atm as well. ;D __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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skyroket Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 92 Reputation: 11	please please please can they not be ugly alien-dr. jekyl/mr.hide type bad guys? CAn you make it like the N64 007-golden eye game please!!! Where you have to find and eliminate another assassin-type game....or you 're like Jason Bourne!! THat'd be even better just a thought __________________ Yes, I believe in God. Last edited by LedZepp : 06-13-2008 at 01:34 PM.

06-13-2008, 10:21 AM	#42 (permalink)
cable729 Experienced Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 230 Reputation: 14	that's awesome, and 3000 fps?!?! ...omg... (wow)

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nashtok Jr. Zuner Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 30 Reputation: 13	You will be the most popular guy here if you get this working!

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zunebro Experienced Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 187 Reputation: 16	i guess that potato chase engine is more efficient and hopefully they'll release it with the new api's __________________ Jesus is Lord Celebrity wallpapers coming to a zune near you!

06-15-2008, 10:03 AM	#54 (permalink)
skyroket Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 92 Reputation: 11	that sucks...i was really hoping for a firstperson shooter. Depressed __________________ Yes, I believe in God.

06-16-2008, 02:05 PM	#55 (permalink)
seifer93 Zuner Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 56 Reputation: 11	Very cool, someone please continue this game.

06-17-2008, 06:18 AM	#56 (permalink)
skyroket Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 92 Reputation: 11	i agree^ __________________ Yes, I believe in God.

06-20-2008, 10:05 PM	#57 (permalink)
db_ Jr. Zuner Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 30 Reputation: 10	there are 3 basic buttons correct ... aside from the back button... id set the back button for menu controls.. and the dpad click for something else and have the play/pause for shoot. just a thought... i wouldnt trash the project just cause of controls .. i can understand having more than one project on hand though.

06-20-2008, 10:07 PM	#58 (permalink)
jackluo923 Senior Zuner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver BC Posts: 1,275 Reputation: 122	He didn't "trash" the project because of the controls. The main reason is that his zune ( zune 8) is too slow for this code. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-20-2008, 10:35 PM	#60 (permalink)
SimReality Jr. Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 410 Reputation: 60	The reason was primarily Dream Build Play. Not controls. Not performance. Those were reasons, but neither were the main ones. I actually had an idea of how to optimize things a bit. I found out that while the Draw method on a gen 2 device is only called 30 times per second (due to the screen refresh rate), Update supposedly still gets called 60 times per second. So if I can move most of the rendering logic to an Update method it should run faster. I'll give it a shot in the next few days to see if it helps at all. I still won't take the shooter project on because DreamBuildPlay gets most of my attention days. But I'll update RaycasterX if it works.

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