RPG Framework

dstickst · 05-12-2008, 10:44 AM

It's been mentioned in passing in some other threads, but as we move along from the initial CTP release I have a feeling more and more people are going to come looking for some sort of RPG engine/framework. As such I thought it'd be useful if we had one place to collect useful tips, code snippets, and conceptual design ideas on the subject.

To get us started, I'd like to pose two questions to the dev community:
1. Have you been able to write XML save-data to the Zune?
2. Does anyone have any personal experience they can relate regarding the Zune's in-game memory management performance?

jsedlak · 05-12-2008, 12:43 PM

1. Yes. Use Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GamerServices.Guide.BeginS howStorageDeviceSelector to get a storage device. Then do MyStorageDevice.Create("My Game Title"); This returns a StorageContainer. You can then do File.Create(Path.Combine(MyStorageContainer.Path, "myfile.xml")); and from there it is smooth sailing.

2. It is very good until you hit the limit. Once you hit the limit and the device has to do a garbage collection you will notice a slow down. This happens a lot while I am developing. It is important that you coders clean up after every Texture2D, SoundEffect, etc object you have.

dstickst · 05-13-2008, 11:23 AM

Thanks for the tip on the XML data - very good to know.

hacker2021 · 05-13-2008, 03:10 PM

Is there a limit to the XML storage? Size wise of course.

133794m3r · 05-13-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hacker2021

Is there a limit to the XML storage? Size wise of course.

I don't think so... it's probably like 16meg... but I think it's reasonable... I'm used to using only 24KB for RAM so... 16 MB now that's a lot of space...

SimReality · 05-15-2008, 07:01 PM

You have 16MB for RAM memory; there is no set limit (besides the size of your drive) for data you save to the disk.

dstickst · 05-16-2008, 08:03 AM

Before we get any more of these questions/statements, let me just clarify once and for all:

The Zune is limited to 16Mb of RAM. This is not the same as hdd space. It is not used for the same thing. Please stop making statements to the effect of "OMG z00ne only has 16mB spaces 4 ur gamez11$!."

If you need to ask the question, you need to Google it first. Then, when you have something less inane to ask (and since this is a Dev forum that is a stupid question), please feel free to ask the community.

Also, this is not specifically directed at 133794m3r - I've noticed numerous people making the same kind of statements around here.

05-12-2008, 10:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
dstickst Jr. Zuner Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 32 Reputation: 12 $zB: 5 Donate	RPG Framework It's been mentioned in passing in some other threads, but as we move along from the initial CTP release I have a feeling more and more people are going to come looking for some sort of RPG engine/framework. As such I thought it'd be useful if we had one place to collect useful tips, code snippets, and conceptual design ideas on the subject. To get us started, I'd like to pose two questions to the dev community: 1. Have you been able to write XML save-data to the Zune? 2. Does anyone have any personal experience they can relate regarding the Zune's in-game memory management performance? __________________ "Some things I do for money, some things I do for free."

05-12-2008, 12:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
jsedlak Experienced Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 109 Reputation: 22 $zB: 92 Donate	1. Yes. Use Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GamerServices.Guide.BeginS howStorageDeviceSelector to get a storage device. Then do MyStorageDevice.Create("My Game Title"); This returns a StorageContainer. You can then do File.Create(Path.Combine(MyStorageContainer.Path, "myfile.xml")); and from there it is smooth sailing. 2. It is very good until you hit the limit. Once you hit the limit and the device has to do a garbage collection you will notice a slow down. This happens a lot while I am developing. It is important that you coders clean up after every Texture2D, SoundEffect, etc object you have. __________________ John Sedlak Microsoft Xna / DirectX MVP To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-13-2008, 11:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
dstickst Jr. Zuner Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 32 Reputation: 12 $zB: 5 Donate	Thanks for the tip on the XML data - very good to know. __________________ "Some things I do for money, some things I do for free."

05-15-2008, 07:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
SimReality Jr. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 336 Reputation: 49 $zB: 279 Donate	You have 16MB for RAM memory; there is no set limit (besides the size of your drive) for data you save to the disk. __________________ Nick Gravelyn Microsoft MVP - DirectX/XNA To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-16-2008, 08:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
dstickst Jr. Zuner Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 32 Reputation: 12 $zB: 5 Donate	Before we get any more of these questions/statements, let me just clarify once and for all: The Zune is limited to 16Mb of RAM. This is not the same as hdd space. It is not used for the same thing. Please stop making statements to the effect of "OMG z00ne only has 16mB spaces 4 ur gamez11$!." If you need to ask the question, you need to Google it first. Then, when you have something less inane to ask (and since this is a Dev forum that is a stupid question), please feel free to ask the community. Also, this is not specifically directed at 133794m3r - I've noticed numerous people making the same kind of statements around here. __________________ "Some things I do for money, some things I do for free."

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05-13-2008, 03:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
hacker2021 Zewbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6 Reputation: 10 $zB: 6 Donate	Is there a limit to the XML storage? Size wise of course.

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