The First RPG... on the zune

133794m3r · 05-11-2008, 04:30 PM

Ok... I'm thinking about making the very first RPG game for the zune... now is this possible using XNA? I mean is it really? I'd like to know... b/c if it is... then I need to get started ASAP... but if it isn't then I need to abandon it... but if it is which is what I hope... I'll need an artist... I mean I can do some simple sprites... but I'd like some help in the art department... well if it is... then I'm making my announcement here and now. "The King's Quest" (working title) is going to be made and is on it's way.

wyckedcombo17 · 05-11-2008, 04:34 PM

its gotta b 2d, so like a scrolling game, you could have the view from above like old school online rpg "tibia"

saab900 · 05-11-2008, 04:40 PM

It would have to be like pokemon or this...
http://www.stickpage.com/stickrpg.shtml

Dark616 · 05-11-2008, 04:43 PM

do it like the original Final Fantasy

Tobososlow · 05-11-2008, 04:44 PM

What's wrong with an RPG like Pokemon? What about something like Golden Sun? I would love something like Golden Sun!

MUfan1313 · 05-11-2008, 04:47 PM

how are you going to make it small enough to fit on the zune

Dragod · 05-11-2008, 04:48 PM

A cool thing would be to put a Pokemon game on it... Those can't be too large of files.

wyckedcombo17 · 05-11-2008, 04:57 PM

heres that tibia thing i was talkin bout. i used to play it, it was cool. the wifi for it would be dope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibia_%28computer_game%29

and a pic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tibia1.jpg

you prolly have something in mind to, tho. let me know if this is what you were thinking of

charmed61 · 05-11-2008, 05:01 PM

lol i was playing that game for hella long and still playing

133794m3r · 05-11-2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyckedcombo17

its gotta b 2d, so like a scrolling game, you could have the view from above like old school online rpg "tibia"

well yeah... it was going to be done... I was just making sure it was.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyckedcombo17

heres that tibia thing i was talkin bout. i used to play it, it was cool. the wifi for it would be dope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibia_%28computer_game%29

and a pic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tibia1.jpg

you prolly have something in mind to, tho. let me know if this is what you were thinking of

Well yeah... it's possible then... and I read somewhere that it can be as large as you like as long as you load it w/ some processing thing... b/c the zune has 16 MB RAM... I'm used to programming on the Calculator which only has 24 KB RAM, and only 15 MB ARC RAM... So this will be a giant leap for me... and yes pokemon is coming... all I have to do is learn how this XNA C# thing works out... I'd love to be able to make it there's just one thing stopping me... I'm not that familiar w/ C#... so until I become more familiar w/ the langauge. Ok it seems I have my work cut out for me... now to begin brushing up my C# skills... oh man this is going to be insane!

ZGamer · 05-11-2008, 07:29 PM

Why dont you do it like this?

http://flashgamesite.com/play1135game.html

133794m3r · 05-11-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ZGamer

Why dont you do it like this?

http://flashgamesite.com/play1135game.html

Well... I don't know.... I might... but I don't know if ppl are going to want to remember passwords... and I'd like to make it so that there's an autosave feature in it... like allow it to be disabled...but on default save every like 10 min... and have an option for it... I'm thinking I may end up just remaking pokemon since all of the hard work is done for me... such as the sprites and such....and the emulator I use... allows me extract the sprite maps that the ROM uses to map the levels from it and save it so.... I can and should be able to do that...

And yeah ZGamer... that's the FF7 engine... so I don't know about that... but the game will most defiantly be turn based... I'm sorry about that to anyone who was expecting real time... but I'm to lazy to code that much.... but yeah pokemon or my own which is first? I don' know.... all I know is I've got to srsly work on my C#. And as I've said I'm used to optimizing code.... b/c I had to limit my programs to under 16 KB, for the RAM.... and I always left 2KB for the memory loops and such... so if anyone could show me some great tuts for C# refresher course really... that'd be great.

Omnidragon · 05-12-2008, 01:26 AM

It would take a hell of a lot of time to code but its doable.
keepin mind that we dont have a working PRG engine at all yyet so it would have to be built from the ground up

Epoc · 05-12-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 133794m3r

so if anyone could show me some great tuts for C# refresher course really... that'd be great.

I did find a few tutorials in the Visuals program. I'll post a few links that show how to do some stuff.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/fkhhsdkt.aspx
The above is more general, the main index

The one below is the direct link for the tutorials, ranging from beginning level to very hard.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa288436.aspx

dstickst · 05-12-2008, 12:19 PM

I just started a thread to collect code/ideas for an RPG framework. If all the ZB RPG devs can work together on compiling a useful guide/engine in that one location, I think it'd be a lot easier for folks like 133794m3r to build their games.

133794m3r · 05-12-2008, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstickst

I just started a thread to collect code/ideas for an RPG framework. If all the ZB RPG devs can work together on compiling a useful guide/engine in that one location, I think it'd be a lot easier for folks like 133794m3r to build their games.

Yeah... but the RPG engines should be kinda standardized and I'll be posting in there... and thanks for the links... I'll be starting tommorow.

Link9228 · 05-13-2008, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobososlow

What's wrong with an RPG like Pokemon? What about something like Golden Sun? I would love something like Golden Sun!

Golden Sun is amazing, I second that... i'm rather sad that i lost my game...

axlgreasetires · 05-13-2008, 03:39 PM

well. A gameboy emulator for zune xna would be my preferred method of playin me some rpg's but if that happens its not happenin soon.

I can't see how a "Framework" would be really beneficial. It would seem that that would lead to games being quite similar. But it may be useful for people that are not as familiar with c# and xna.

'Edit. idk i think i was thinking of a diff post when i started writing about framework.

amoo3 · 05-13-2008, 04:56 PM

Can it be done? Yes
First thing that you'll have to think of is controls. How are you going to move, go through inventory, attack etc. all with only one hand.
Second thing is that the Zune is even a step below than the PS or DS in portable gaming. I always though of portable gaming to be short games, or games that I can play for 10 minutes while im waiting around and put away. Im not going to sit for an hour an play a game on my tiny Zune 8 screen.

Keep these two things in mind and I think you'll have a winner.

05-11-2008, 04:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
133794m3r Graduate Zuner Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: On the interenet. Posts: 1,476 Reputation: 32 $zB: 1550 Donate	The First RPG... on the zune Ok... I'm thinking about making the very first RPG game for the zune... now is this possible using XNA? I mean is it really? I'd like to know... b/c if it is... then I need to get started ASAP... but if it isn't then I need to abandon it... but if it is which is what I hope... I'll need an artist... I mean I can do some simple sprites... but I'd like some help in the art department... well if it is... then I'm making my announcement here and now. "The King's Quest" (working title) is going to be made and is on it's way. __________________ This pic to the left is totally unrelated to me and does not represent my looks or how I look... a female told me to do it... and well... I made it my avatar... why? If your a guy you understand... it's just easier to listen to what they say. Pokemon be coming to your Zune plz... don't yell at me for slowness... the game took a team of like 100 ppl like 5 years.. and I'm one guy...

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wyckedcombo17 Zune Guardian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: chicago-ish Posts: 744 Reputation: 50 $zB: 491 Donate	its gotta b 2d, so like a scrolling game, you could have the view from above like old school online rpg "tibia" __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "When the power of love finally overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." - Hendrix (sig by Tobososlow) trouble tagging music? get Picard Tagger To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , it works great!

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saab900 Graduate Zuner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kickin it on the east coast Posts: 1,419 Reputation: 88 $zB: 776 Donate	It would have to be like pokemon or this... http://www.stickpage.com/stickrpg.shtml __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Tobososlow Super Tough Killer Robot GFX Crew Zune Freak Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In a hypocritical world Posts: 1,068 Reputation: 59 $zB: 618 Donate	What's wrong with an RPG like Pokemon? What about something like Golden Sun? I would love something like Golden Sun! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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MUfan1313 Jr. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 500 Reputation: 15 $zB: 316 Donate	how are you going to make it small enough to fit on the zune

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wyckedcombo17 Zune Guardian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: chicago-ish Posts: 744 Reputation: 50 $zB: 491 Donate	heres that tibia thing i was talkin bout. i used to play it, it was cool. the wifi for it would be dope. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibia_%28computer_game%29 and a pic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tibia1.jpg you prolly have something in mind to, tho. let me know if this is what you were thinking of __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "When the power of love finally overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." - Hendrix (sig by Tobososlow) trouble tagging music? get Picard Tagger To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , it works great!

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charmed61 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The Gold Rush State! Posts: 585 Reputation: 3 $zB: 280 Donate	lol i was playing that game for hella long and still playing __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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ZGamer Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 397 Reputation: 15 $zB: 75 Donate	Why dont you do it like this? http://flashgamesite.com/play1135game.html __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Alright! Now I'm going to try a new website, about the ZUNE!!! Visit if you like and tell me how it looks! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Omnidragon zB Programmer Jr. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 287 Reputation: 18 $zB: 234 Donate	It would take a hell of a lot of time to code but its doable. keepin mind that we dont have a working PRG engine at all yyet so it would have to be built from the ground up __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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dstickst Jr. Zuner Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 32 Reputation: 12 $zB: 5 Donate	I just started a thread to collect code/ideas for an RPG framework. If all the ZB RPG devs can work together on compiling a useful guide/engine in that one location, I think it'd be a lot easier for folks like 133794m3r to build their games. __________________ "Some things I do for money, some things I do for free."

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axlgreasetires Squirt Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 17 Reputation: 10 $zB: 11 Donate	well. A gameboy emulator for zune xna would be my preferred method of playin me some rpg's but if that happens its not happenin soon. I can't see how a "Framework" would be really beneficial. It would seem that that would lead to games being quite similar. But it may be useful for people that are not as familiar with c# and xna. 'Edit. idk i think i was thinking of a diff post when i started writing about framework. Last edited by axlgreasetires : 05-14-2008 at 11:54 AM.

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amoo3 Zuner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 63 Reputation: 11 $zB: 25 Donate	Can it be done? Yes First thing that you'll have to think of is controls. How are you going to move, go through inventory, attack etc. all with only one hand. Second thing is that the Zune is even a step below than the PS or DS in portable gaming. I always though of portable gaming to be short games, or games that I can play for 10 minutes while im waiting around and put away. Im not going to sit for an hour an play a game on my tiny Zune 8 screen. Keep these two things in mind and I think you'll have a winner.

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