iPod to get Zune-like sharing?

ACE · 07-12-2007, 09:35 AM

There's rumors out there that iPod is trying their own version of 'the social'. A step I have criticized since almost every site that is reporting it is refering it as iPod going in the Zune direction - something that will bring Zune some good press.

OH Apple is following the Zune? One thing that's being reported is a wireless sync feature - which is a idiotic idea. Why would anyone want to wirelessly sync and drain a ton of energy in the process instead of syncing while charging? Stooopid.

Apple is reaching an all time high of stupidity. First it's their flawed media players, then their $1000 cell phone, and now this? Stoopid.....

SOURCES:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/crowding-...sic-277711.php
http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/07/...e.like.patent/
http://www.electronista.com/articles...e.like.patent/

**PoN** · 07-16-2007, 08:16 AM

If they do. Everyone will kno they copyed off Microsoft ANd prolly get sued.

MajerPayne · 07-16-2007, 09:04 AM

hah yah no doubt

Thats quite pathetic, they cant be original and come up with somthing new
They have to copy someone else
haha

chrisiscool62 · 07-16-2007, 09:42 AM

They know that the zune is better..quite a few people just havent realized it yet.

David · 07-16-2007, 10:36 AM

I like the idea of wireless syncing... It is kinda pointless though... cause you would have to get on the computer and convert the vid... or un-rar the music... but if there was a way past that then this would be nice.

and I think I read somewhere that you'll be able to search their library and request the songs you want.

anyway... I wonder if their gunna get a radio too

Mrtacobell · 07-16-2007, 10:42 AM

Hmmmm what are they going to copy from ms next?

elmastero1 · 07-16-2007, 11:06 AM

... and the Ipod sheep will buy it.

Aden · 07-16-2007, 11:24 AM

Darned Apple, get your own frikkin idea stupid greedy ass company.

Worried Zune will start to dominate the market thats all...

Rot in hell stupid Apple.

ehntoo · 07-16-2007, 11:38 AM

Eh, as a somewhat unbiased party, I don't think all the microsoft fans should be talking.

I have yet to find someone who can give me a truly innovative idea which Microsoft has come up with. They don't, as a rule, come up with new ideas. They take old ideas which have already been done, tinker with them, adding a few proprietary features here and there, add their logo, and push it out the door.

If someone can give me something which Microsoft has done which was never done before and was truly innovative, I'll consent that you're right.

Until then, you've got no right to talk.

Oh, and don't point at the Zune's "wifi". They took an existing protocol, crippled it severely, and that's it.

elmastero1 · 07-16-2007, 01:58 PM

It's not who does what, it's who does what better. There's nothing wrong with a little healthy competition. Apple will take what Microsoft did and try to improve on it. Hopefully Microsoft will take what Apple comes up with and add to it. So it's all good in my book. Besides, I don't really care what Apple does. I'm just going to enjoy my Zune for as long as it lasts. Then some time down the line I'll pick up the best product on the market that fits my needs and at my price range. Whether it's from Microsoft, Toshiba, Sony or god for bid Apple is irrelevant.

Cursemaster0 · 07-16-2007, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ehntoo

Eh, as a somewhat unbiased party, I don't think all the microsoft fans should be talking.

I have yet to find someone who can give me a truly innovative idea which Microsoft has come up with. They don't, as a rule, come up with new ideas. They take old ideas which have already been done, tinker with them, adding a few proprietary features here and there, add their logo, and push it out the door.

If someone can give me something which Microsoft has done which was never done before and was truly innovative, I'll consent that you're right.

Until then, you've got no right to talk.

Oh, and don't point at the Zune's "wifi". They took an existing protocol, crippled it severely, and that's it.

You call that un biased. Zune's wi-fi is not crippled. I t was never made for what we put it up too. It was made to allow other people to sample a track. Not to give it to them. That would be stealing. Plus if you have a subscription you just go to the SMP and download it instantly. With the iPod you gotta go home, white down the song, look it up, yada yada.

You have no right to talk either Mr. Lier.

Super Person · 07-16-2007, 03:43 PM

ughhhh....microsoft better sue...

ehntoo · 07-18-2007, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cursemaster0

You call that un biased. Zune's wi-fi is not crippled. I t was never made for what we put it up too. It was made to allow other people to sample a track. Not to give it to them. That would be stealing. Plus if you have a subscription you just go to the SMP and download it instantly. With the iPod you gotta go home, white down the song, look it up, yada yada.

You have no right to talk either Mr. Lier.

In my school, we spell Liar with an A.

You just explained how the Zune's wifi is crippled. It doesn't do full wifi. You cannot connect to any other device than the Zune. If my car's gas cap would only come unscrewed at a certain gas station (one which might not be my favorite, to boot), wouldn't you say it's broken?

Crippled wifi. Fact, not opinion.

Question: Have you actually ever used the Zune's wifi in public, with another person?

ACE · 07-19-2007, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ehntoo

Eh, as a somewhat unbiased party, I don't think all the microsoft fans should be talking.

I have yet to find someone who can give me a truly innovative idea which Microsoft has come up with.

Uh Oh....Another Microsoft hater.....You know what? Give me one name of a business and I'll show you a copy cat....and what, Apple's any different? They copy just as much as the next guy....

Quote:

Originally Posted by ehntoo

Oh, and don't point at the Zune's "wifi". They took an existing protocol, crippled it severely, and that's it.

You have no idea what you're talking about. #1 - the Zune is a MEDIA DEVICE. It isn't built for messaging...have you even seen one? It would be insane for Zune to interface online, text, or communicate with other wi-fi devices. What you see as 'crippled' - I see as necessary. You can share songs through a wi-fi medium - CUASE IT'S A MEDIA DEVICE!!

Go buy that new Apple $1000 cell phone.....

ehntoo · 07-19-2007, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominiej

Uh Oh....Another Microsoft hater.....You know what? Give me one name of a business and I'll show you a copy cat....and what, Apple's any different? They copy just as much as the next guy....

Precisely. So people have no right to point at Apple and call them pirates when their own company (the next guy) copies just as much. Look at OS X. They took BSD and then modified it for their own purposes. I can come up with nearly as many examples of Apple taking other people's work and using it as their own as Microsoft.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominiej

You have no idea what you're talking about. #1 - the Zune is a MEDIA DEVICE. It isn't built for messaging...have you even seen one? It would be insane for Zune to interface online, text, or communicate with other wi-fi devices. What you see as 'crippled' - I see as necessary. You can share songs through a wi-fi medium - CUASE IT'S A MEDIA DEVICE!!

Go buy that new Apple $1000 cell phone.....

I have plenty of an idea what I'm talking about. And you still haven't said that the Zune's wifi isn't crippled. It is. It does not have a full WiFi implementation.

And the iPhone sucks.

I've never bought a Microsoft Product. The only Apple product I've ever bought is an iPod, and I don't even run the Apple firmware. I run rockbox. On my computers, I run Linux. I'm not an apple fan.

ACE · 07-20-2007, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ehntoo

And you still haven't said that the Zune's wifi isn't crippled. It is. It does not have a full WiFi implementation.

SO.......when I said

Quote:

Originally Posted by ME

What you see as 'crippled' - I see as necessary

That wasn't plain enough for you? Look I'll reiterate for you since you seem a little slow here....

THE ZUNE IS A MEDIA DEVICE.

It isn't a Blackberry so stop trying to compare the Zune to other wi-fi enabled devices that AREN'T media devices and say Zune's wi-fi is 'crippled'. It's functional. O and I guess you'd say the Sansas wi-fi is crippled too? It can only use wi-fi to link to other sansa owners over the internet. It's a media device too and it's just like Zune in that it simply uses the wi-fi medium to get certain things accomplished.

Hey I have an idea. Why don't you go build your dream media player that does all the wi-fi you want and then see how much people can exploit it to steal music. Then, before you know it, you'll have the RIAA knocking at you door with a huge lawsuit. Microsoft ain't dumb, and I think they took that into account too....but that's not saying the wi-fi's crippled.

And if you don't have a Zune, what kinda loser comes onto a Zune forum talking about something he doesn't own?

Elijach · 07-20-2007, 10:12 AM

Quote:

It isn't a Blackberry so stop trying to compare the Zune to other wi-fi enabled devices that AREN'T media devices and say Zune's wi-fi is 'crippled'. It's functional. O and I guess you'd say the Sansas wi-fi is crippled too? It can only use wi-fi to link to other sansa owners over the internet. It's a media device too and it's just like Zune in that it simply uses the wi-fi medium to get certain things accomplished.

I think, talking about wi-fi.. that useless is a word used for something that reaches its purpose like zune did. It just want wi-fi to have a taste of that song i liked and see if buy his CD anything idk and just that, so it is useless.
And yes.. buy a zune and criticize it

Srry my bad english :S

Wootmasta · 07-20-2007, 10:59 AM

Does this mean we get to go to their forums and product pages and flame them?

Cursemaster0 · 07-20-2007, 11:07 AM

Yes. We Do. READY THE TROOPS!

ehntoo · 07-20-2007, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominiej

THE ZUNE IS A MEDIA DEVICE.

It isn't a Blackberry so stop trying to compare the Zune to other wi-fi enabled devices that AREN'T media devices and say Zune's wi-fi is 'crippled'. It's functional. O and I guess you'd say the Sansas wi-fi is crippled too? It can only use wi-fi to link to other sansa owners over the internet. It's a media device too and it's just like Zune in that it simply uses the wi-fi medium to get certain things accomplished.

Hey I have an idea. Why don't you go build your dream media player that does all the wi-fi you want and then see how much people can exploit it to steal music. Then, before you know it, you'll have the RIAA knocking at you door with a huge lawsuit. Microsoft ain't dumb, and I think they took that into account too....but that's not saying the wi-fi's crippled.

You're right. The Zune doesn't need to have web capability. But here's the thing: the Sansa doesn't have crippled wifi. It implements the full WiFi stack. It can connect to a wifi router. It does wifi. As do the Nintendo DS and various other small devices.

I had never compared the Zune (previous to this post) to another device.

Listen, I'm not arguing that the Zune needs full WiFi. In my original post (which you have taken and blown way out of its original context), I simply stated that the Zune's WiFi wasn't innovative or a Microsoft idea.

And the Zune's WiFi is still crippled. It is functional. But still crippled. If I break my foot in four places, I can still hobble around on crutches. See? This isn't from a usability standpoint, simply a technical one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominiej

And if you don't have a Zune, what kinda loser comes onto a Zune forum talking about something he doesn't own?

I've got one coming to me which I got on Club Live and I was looking around the various Zune forums trying to see if anyone'd cracked the encryption on the firmware yet, as I'm interested in helping get Rockbox onto it. Zune-Linux is down, and this was the only board with a hacks forum. And then I got into this thread, so I haven't left yet.

Happy yet?

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ACE iPoods suck! zB Writer Section Staff Super Zuner Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fresno, CA USA Posts: 1,873 Reputation: 140 $zB: 162 Donate	iPod to get Zune-like sharing? There's rumors out there that iPod is trying their own version of 'the social'. A step I have criticized since almost every site that is reporting it is refering it as iPod going in the Zune direction - something that will bring Zune some good press. OH Apple is following the Zune? One thing that's being reported is a wireless sync feature - which is a idiotic idea. Why would anyone want to wirelessly sync and drain a ton of energy in the process instead of syncing while charging? Stooopid. Apple is reaching an all time high of stupidity. First it's their flawed media players, then their $1000 cell phone, and now this? Stoopid..... SOURCES: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/crowding-...sic-277711.php http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/07/...e.like.patent/ http://www.electronista.com/articles...e.like.patent/ __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I'm an To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ...Do you know what the original ZuneMarketplace looked like?

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07-16-2007, 10:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mrtacobell Jr. Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 410 Reputation: 12 $zB: 1 Donate	Hmmmm what are they going to copy from ms next?

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elmastero1 Zuner Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 78 Reputation: 11 $zB: 0 Donate	... and the Ipod sheep will buy it.

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Aden Posting Disabled Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: www.darkzune.com Posts: 585 Reputation: 7 $zB: 13 Donate	Darned Apple, get your own frikkin idea stupid greedy ass company. Worried Zune will start to dominate the market thats all... Rot in hell stupid Apple.

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ehntoo Squirt Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16 Reputation: 8 $zB: 0 Donate	Eh, as a somewhat unbiased party, I don't think all the microsoft fans should be talking. I have yet to find someone who can give me a truly innovative idea which Microsoft has come up with. They don't, as a rule, come up with new ideas. They take old ideas which have already been done, tinker with them, adding a few proprietary features here and there, add their logo, and push it out the door. If someone can give me something which Microsoft has done which was never done before and was truly innovative, I'll consent that you're right. Until then, you've got no right to talk. Oh, and don't point at the Zune's "wifi". They took an existing protocol, crippled it severely, and that's it.

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elmastero1 Zuner Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 78 Reputation: 11 $zB: 0 Donate	It's not who does what, it's who does what better. There's nothing wrong with a little healthy competition. Apple will take what Microsoft did and try to improve on it. Hopefully Microsoft will take what Apple comes up with and add to it. So it's all good in my book. Besides, I don't really care what Apple does. I'm just going to enjoy my Zune for as long as it lasts. Then some time down the line I'll pick up the best product on the market that fits my needs and at my price range. Whether it's from Microsoft, Toshiba, Sony or god for bid Apple is irrelevant.

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