Is it just me or...

chaoscarrot · 07-11-2007, 01:57 PM

I got a zune pretty recently and it seems like it doesnt handle black very well- in a picture or movie. IT seems kind of pixelated in a way anyone else have this

xploziv · 07-11-2007, 02:25 PM

depends on the movie you have or if the conversion made was crappy . . .

Mrtacobell · 07-11-2007, 03:13 PM

Maybe it's just the movie and not the zune itself

alleycat_126 · 07-11-2007, 03:49 PM

dunno yet still trying to upload movies to my zune.

chaoscarrot · 07-11-2007, 04:11 PM

not the movies they look fine on my computer and it only happens with dark colors they just look kinda smeared its hard to explain lol

xploziv · 07-11-2007, 04:30 PM

its probably the conversion that is having a problem . . . i tried downloading stuff from here and ive never had any problem like yours . . . the movies are great and it doesnt get pixelated and the black is very clear, no smudge of gray . . . it depends actually on how the movies are compressed and converted . . . it happens to some of my movies . . . but not all . . . i just reconvert them . . .

chaoscarrot · 07-11-2007, 04:36 PM

yeah thats the thing tho i convert them then watch so i guess its a problem with the syncing

ACE · 07-12-2007, 09:53 AM

It is the conversion. Do you convert the video in 320x240 MP4?
'cause if you don't and watch it, it WILL look correct, but when you go to sync, the Zune Marketplace is convert it and compress it to the format mentioned above. That requires extreme amounts of algorythms which will make any movie look somewhat pixelated on any media device - including Zune and iPod and PSP

chaoscarrot · 07-12-2007, 11:10 AM

oh ok so even though the marketplace doesnt say its converting it actually is just a little bit?

David · 07-12-2007, 11:16 AM

well... it's the zune, and it's the video

I haven't seen many movies that handle the color blakc perfectly... they always have different blocks of different shades of black.

it does this on my tv, and on my zune, and even sometimes on my computer.

The only vids that i've used that don't do this are the 4 gig iso video files, and high def video.

also the zune's color is kinda low... so when you use dark colors, try to make it completely black... and don't use any kind of gradient... otherwise you'll get a kinda blocky looking pic.

so yeah... solid colors work the best on the zune... if there's any kind of black with any hint of another color in it... it freaks out. lol

I don't remember what it was but I think the zune only have 16 bit color display.

chaoscarrot · 07-12-2007, 11:48 AM

yeah not the converting i tried it at a lower bit rate and it still looks good on the computer and bad on the zune- also it happens with any color when its dark in the movie. if in the movie its outside or bright the color is fine, as well as pitch black.

07-11-2007, 01:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
chaoscarrot Squirt Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 29 Reputation: 10 $zB: 0 Donate	Is it just me or... I got a zune pretty recently and it seems like it doesnt handle black very well- in a picture or movie. IT seems kind of pixelated in a way anyone else have this

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ACE I Scream, U Scream, We... zB Writer Section Staff Elite Zuner Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fresno, CA USA Posts: 2,097 Reputation: 188 $zB: 376 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	It is the conversion. Do you convert the video in 320x240 MP4? 'cause if you don't and watch it, it WILL look correct, but when you go to sync, the Zune Marketplace is convert it and compress it to the format mentioned above. That requires extreme amounts of algorythms which will make any movie look somewhat pixelated on any media device - including Zune and iPod and PSP __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I'm an To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ...Do you know what the original ZuneMarketplace looked like?

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David I eat babies An army of many Retired Staff Expert Zuner Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: right behind you Posts: 2,854 Reputation: 61 $zB: 79 Donate	well... it's the zune, and it's the video I haven't seen many movies that handle the color blakc perfectly... they always have different blocks of different shades of black. it does this on my tv, and on my zune, and even sometimes on my computer. The only vids that i've used that don't do this are the 4 gig iso video files, and high def video. also the zune's color is kinda low... so when you use dark colors, try to make it completely black... and don't use any kind of gradient... otherwise you'll get a kinda blocky looking pic. so yeah... solid colors work the best on the zune... if there's any kind of black with any hint of another color in it... it freaks out. lol I don't remember what it was but I think the zune only have 16 bit color display. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. If you can beat 'em to a pulp, make 'em join you.

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07-11-2007, 02:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
xploziv Experienced Zuner Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 199 Reputation: 16 $zB: 0 Donate	depends on the movie you have or if the conversion made was crappy . . .

07-11-2007, 03:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mrtacobell Jr. Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 410 Reputation: 12 $zB: 1 Donate	Maybe it's just the movie and not the zune itself

07-11-2007, 03:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
alleycat_126 Zewbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4 Reputation: 10 $zB: 0 Donate	dunno yet still trying to upload movies to my zune.

07-11-2007, 04:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
chaoscarrot Squirt Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 29 Reputation: 10 $zB: 0 Donate	not the movies they look fine on my computer and it only happens with dark colors they just look kinda smeared its hard to explain lol

07-11-2007, 04:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
xploziv Experienced Zuner Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 199 Reputation: 16 $zB: 0 Donate	its probably the conversion that is having a problem . . . i tried downloading stuff from here and ive never had any problem like yours . . . the movies are great and it doesnt get pixelated and the black is very clear, no smudge of gray . . . it depends actually on how the movies are compressed and converted . . . it happens to some of my movies . . . but not all . . . i just reconvert them . . .

07-11-2007, 04:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
chaoscarrot Squirt Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 29 Reputation: 10 $zB: 0 Donate	yeah thats the thing tho i convert them then watch so i guess its a problem with the syncing

07-12-2007, 11:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
chaoscarrot Squirt Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 29 Reputation: 10 $zB: 0 Donate	oh ok so even though the marketplace doesnt say its converting it actually is just a little bit?

07-12-2007, 11:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
chaoscarrot Squirt Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 29 Reputation: 10 $zB: 0 Donate	yeah not the converting i tried it at a lower bit rate and it still looks good on the computer and bad on the zune- also it happens with any color when its dark in the movie. if in the movie its outside or bright the color is fine, as well as pitch black.

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