[Little Horn]

Originally Posted by Rocky32189

ChrisV1,

You cannot say it is scientifically impossible for life to come from "nothing". We just haven't advanced far enough to prove without a doubt that this possible. But we do have a wide array of evidence that suggests this is what occurred. Intelligent Design on the other hand, has zero evidence to back up its reasoning besides blind faith.

And like I said before, it is no more believable to say that a god was always here and one day decided to create everything, than it is to say the building blocks of life were always here and it took the right conditions to begin life. You cannot argue either way.

If I knew God existed, I wouldn't follow out of fear, but that is just me. Why don't you feel that you need tangible proof or evidence to back up your beliefs? Isn't the word faith simply a way to explain the lack of evidence for God's existence?

Genesis also states that god created the earth in seven days. Fossil records show that significant life existed millions of years before humans walked the earth. You cannot have it both ways. Either you accept science as fact or believe that fossil records are wrong, suggesting that dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time as humans (or within seven days of each other). Do you believe fossil records are incorrect? What do you believe concerning this issue?

I think floorpuncher covered the virgin birth issue quite well.

I've never once denied the word of God. I simply do not believe in something in which I feel there is no proof of existence, but in fact there is a wide array of evidence to suggest he doesn't exist. What is wrong with that? If God gave me the ability to question something that I feel doesn't make sense, why would he punish me for it? But according to the bible, I will go to hell for this, but a Christian who kills and rapes (and later repents) will go to heaven. Why would an all loving God and reasonable God allow for this?

Keep in mind that I am an Atheist. I think the difference between me and many other Atheists is that I don't necessarily take the stand that science proves the non existence of God because I don't because no advancement of science could ever prove such a thing. I think that because I study the Bible and other religous works I have a very solid understanding of what God is when viewed under the Christian microscope and I can understand a Christian's thought process a little better than most Atheists can. This is not to say that I agree with it or can relate, just that I can understand.

You claim that if you knew God existed, you wouldn't follow. I'm the same way. I refuse to worship a sexist, racist, malevolent bully in a positive light even if he were to show himself to me. What you're not understanding is the difference between faith and belief and worship. Just because you believe something to be true does not mean you have to like it. If God were to show himself he would prove that he existed and the foundation of Christianity would shatter. I'm not saying this makes any kind of rational sense as to why a God would create man, want man to worship him but to alway doubt his existence. But this is the foundation of Christianity. (Correct me if I'm wrong Chris).

As far as Genesis's account for the creation of everything and the order in which it happened... This doesn't mean that this is way that God created things. Yes, I understand that millions of Jews and Christians all consider Genesis to be the word of God but that doesn't mean that it is. All these fallacies establish is an unstable foundation for the story of Genesis but can not discredit the idea of God.

I know what you're going to say and before you say it i agree with you 100%.

If Genesis could possibly be wrong then what else could possibly be wrong.

These are things that to Atheist, cast doubt. As Atheists we typically look at things critically and try to use rationale to understand things. Religionists use faith therefore the specifics aren't really always important to them. I think that any Christian with any common sense would tell you that there are parts of their religion that don't make sense and that this is when they rely on faith. I can't begin to relate to this thought process but it is their right to look at things how they wish.

I often raise this question when I think about the idea of God.

If God created me in his own image, wants me to worship him and his son, yet made me so critical (and cynical) am I really to blame for my lack of faith? Is it really my fault? Is it fair that burn in hell forever for being as I was made?

I think not. To me, this is all the evidence I need to confirm to myself that there is no god. At least not one that cares about what I think or feel or whether or not I or anyone else worships him.