Quote:
Originally Posted by carnealse
Well agnostic is not exactly as you described it. Agnostic belief of God or higher power is that it is unknown or, depending on the form of agnosticism, inherently unknowable due to the nature of subjective experience perceived by that individual. So they do not accept anything empirical nor claim that God is real or not real.
I am not confused as I study religions and theology. So do not assume I am uneducated or make claims off of speculation.
I see that you do not take the test seriously since you know that knowing all information is impossible, and that there is a possibility of the existence of some higher intelligence. This is typical of hardened belief without open mindedness to possibility presented by logic.
You are right. I did assume the Christian bible, since when people say the bible, typically in America it is the Christian version referred to. The Jewish bible...you mean the Torah? The Islamic bible, the Quran? The Christian bible...the ...bible? That is why I assumed it. The Jewish bible..that was funny though since it is the old testament and is apart of the Christian bible haha, good one.
I also think that was a negative vibe about me being brain washed. Especially since you have zero idea what my beliefs are. Quite assuming and unaware to say something so personal against another when you have no foundation to argue against me with. Saying I would not understand, yet I have plenty of study in the subject, is not a fair assessment.
Not very Zune of you man, especially against another Zuner.
I was trying to give you reasons to chill and not worry about the others you have a problem with. You took it way too personal and brought that to a personal level with a verbal slash.
I was not intending on a hit on your thoughts, merely a reasoning why you can live your way and not worry about those others.
I did not know I struck a nerve in a bad way. It was not why I posted what I did.
My fault, but do not bash others like that when you have no idea yourself about the other person, their background, their knowledge, and their intent without clarifying first.
|
-Sigh-
I'm not even going to go into the whole thing because, well, it's not worth it. The brainwashing part (as in assuming you're religious) is indeed a slip on my part, but I think I made pretty decent arguments for the rest of it. But the Atheist vs. Agnostic part I am still holding on strong.
I know that there is no way of telling what's in the universe, or whether there is no god or Invisible Pink Unicorn (both seem to be on the same level for me ; )) or whatever, but Atheists
believe that there is no god. They believe that despite all of this missing information, if all the blanks were filled in people would find no god as a divine power does not exist. If this is being close-minded, than it is no more close-minded than believing in a divine power. The test only works if the definition of an Atheist is confused. Obviously we don't know for sure--no one does, and to say so would be unreasonable. But it's the fact that we
believe (despite all of the missing blanks) that there is absolutely NO divine power controlling the creation and function of the universe.
I also hold strong on the point that if the test WERE true, than there would be no such thing as a religious person either.
And, just for fun, I'm going to try to guess your religion (should you indeed be religious)...
Christian? Or perhaps Catholic?
(not meant to be a slam towards you).