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Originally Posted by dustingrey
Apparently you don't know what the difference between being an Atheist and being Agnostic are. By definition, an Atheist is, "a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings." An Agnostic, by definition, is, "a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience." This test proves nothing, and certainly does not make Atheism impossible. While an Atheist can admit that he/she cannot know everything, the fact that he/she believes there is no god is what make him/her an Atheist. Agnostics say no one can know for sure, but they don't believe one way or the other.
Perhaps I forgot the point in time where America fell to Anarchism and every way of life was acceptable. Because if that did indeed happen, I totally agree with you. But the fact of the matter is that today's society doesn't pride itself in believing there is no wrong way to live. If that were true, why on Earth would it have laws set up, and punishments for those who do not participate? Oh, and perhaps I also forgot that there was no purpose to life if there is no afterlife. Except...maybe... living?
I brought the bible into this because of just what you said. There are so many other beliefs and books to choose from. I don't recall saying the "Christian bible" or "Jewish bible". Once again, I think you're confused on the actually meaning of the word. By definition, a bible is "(often lowercase) the sacred writings of any religion."
When it comes down to it, I think you're confused about a lot of things. In this case, it seems to be Atheism as a whole. Being Atheist does not mean you are free from any sort of punishment for your actions. After death, maybe, but in reality, we are subject to the same moral laws of Theists. Being Atheist does not mean one doesn't have a conscience after all. Because you seem to have difficulties with definitions, a conscience is defined as being, "the inner sense of what is right or wrong in one's conduct or motives, impelling one toward right action: to follow the dictates of conscience."
And, as far as the brainwashing bit goes, well, it seems you wouldn't understand anyways. How's the clean brain treating you by the way?
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Well agnostic is not exactly as you described it. Agnostic belief of God or higher power is that it is unknown or, depending on the form of agnosticism, inherently unknowable due to the nature of subjective experience perceived by that individual. So they do not accept anything empirical nor claim that God is real or not real.
I am not confused as I study religions and theology. So do not assume I am uneducated or make claims off of speculation.
I see that you do not take the test seriously since you know that knowing all information is impossible, and that there is a possibility of the existence of some higher intelligence. This is typical of hardened belief without open mindedness to possibility presented by logic.
You are right. I did assume the Christian bible, since when people say the bible, typically in America it is the Christian version referred to. The Jewish bible...you mean the Torah? The Islamic bible, the Quran? The Christian bible...the ...bible? That is why I assumed it. The Jewish bible..that was funny though since it is the old testament and is apart of the Christian bible haha, good one.
I also think that was a negative vibe about me being brain washed. Especially since you have zero idea what my beliefs are. Quite assuming and unaware to say something so personal against another when you have no foundation to argue against me with. Saying I would not understand, yet I have plenty of study in the subject, is not a fair assessment.
Not very Zune of you man, especially against another Zuner.
I was trying to give you reasons to chill and not worry about the others you have a problem with. You took it way too personal and brought that to a personal level with a verbal slash.
I was not intending on a hit on your thoughts, merely a reasoning why you can live your way and not worry about those others.
I did not know I struck a nerve in a bad way. It was not why I posted what I did.
My fault, but do not bash others like that when you have no idea yourself about the other person, their background, their knowledge, and their intent without clarifying first.