The Supposed "Leaked Video of Zune Linux" — Biggest Hoax of 2007

January 14, 2007 by lpxxfaintxx 

From the blog….

Recently, a video of the Zune running "Linux" was posted. I doubt it was real linux, but I am sure it wasn’t leaked by Mys Videl. The facts just don’t add up.

1. The YouTube Post

According to the user "ZuneSceneExlusive" from YouTube.com, this video was leaked by Mys Videl. Here is the direct quote:

MysVidel from ZuneBoards.com leaked diz video 2 me… i hope he dusn’t get too mad at me

Mys Videl would never leak any kind of secret info to an overly eager 12 year old who can not spell. She also would never leak it to someone she did not trust. If she had trusted him, he would’ve known that Mys Videl is a SHE not a HE.

2. The ZuneScene Post

If I remember correctly, this video was first posted at ZuneScene.com. In case you haven’t known, Mys Videl is an admin from ZuneBoards.com… Now why the hell would she post the video at ZuneScene and not at ZuneBoards? Also, according to one of the admins at ZuneScene, the user who posted the video had the email address of "Mys.Videl@gmail.com." I’ll let you know right now, that she does not have an email called "Mys.Videl@gmail.com." In fact, her email address doesn’t relate to her username at all.

3. The Video Itself

I’ll keep this one nice and short. Mys Videl does not own a camera. You would know this if you had been a member here long enough.

4. Zune Linux

All Mys Videl does for the Zune Linux is some heavy duty debugging. She does no programming. The programming part is up to her friends, who are also working on the Zune Linux. So please, stop bothering her about it. The Zune Linux will come someday, just please be patient. The ipod wasn’t hacked in the first few months that it came out.

So who was it? Probably some prankster trying to screw her over.

Comments

 
 
JakeCourtney's Avatar
Re: The Supposed "Leaked Video of Zune Linux" -- Biggest Hoax of 2007

Honestly, the Zune should of had all the stuff the Ipod has now. I mean it's just a simple ass clock.
Old 01-17-2007, 06:50 PM JakeCourtney is offline  
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Mys Videl
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Re: The Supposed "Leaked Video of Zune Linux" -- Biggest Hoax of 2007

You're kidding me right? I've sparked some sort of controversy? Also a clock isn't as simple as you'd think. Example:
Code:
 #include <Date.au3> ; _DateDaysInMonth() and all its dependencies

Func _TimeDelayForMS($ms, $showToolTip=1)
  $startTime=API_GetTickCount()
  $endTime = $startTime + $ms
  While API_GetTickCount() < $endTime
    ;ToolTip(@Hour & ':' & @Min & ':' & @Sec & ':' & _MSec())
    If $showToolTip = 1 then ToolTip(API_GetTickCount())
    Sleep(1)
  WEnd
EndFunc

Func _TimeDelayUpToMS($ms, $exitCondition, $showToolTip=0)
  $startTime=API_GetTickCount()
  $endTime = $startTime + $ms
  While API_GetTickCount() < $endTime and Execute($exitCondition)=0
    ;ToolTip(@Hour & ':' & @Min & ':' & @Sec & ':' & _MSec())
    If $showToolTip = 1 then ToolTip(API_GetTickCount())
    Sleep(1)
  WEnd
EndFunc

Func API_GetTickCount()
  $t=DllCall("kernel32.dll", "int", "GetTickCount")
  Return $t[0]
EndFunc

; ----------------------------------------------------

Func API_GetLocalTime()
  Local $stSystemTime = DllStructCreate('ushort;ushort;ushort;ushort;ushort;ushort;ushort;ushort')
  DllCall('kernel32.dll', 'none', 'GetLocalTime', 'ptr', DllStructGetPtr($stSystemTime))
  
  Local $gst=DllStructGetData($stSystemTime, 1)
  For $i = 2 to 8
    $gst = $gst & ":" & DllStructGetData($stSystemTime, $i)
  Next
  
  $stSystemTime = 0 ; free structure from memory
  return $gst
EndFunc

Func API_SetLocalTime($increment, $units="Minutes")
  $Systime = DllStructCreate("ushort;ushort;ushort;ushort;ushort;ushort;ushort;ushort")
  $arg = DllCall("kernel32.dll","long","GetLocalTime","ptr",DllStructGetPtr($Systime))
  
  If StringInStr($increment,":")>0 then
    Consolewrite("Set absolute time" & @cr)
    ; Set absolute time
    $dat=stringsplit($increment,":")
    DllStructSetData($Systime,1,$dat[1])
    DllStructSetData($Systime,2,$dat[2])
    DllStructSetData($Systime,3,$dat[3])
    DllStructSetData($Systime,4,$dat[4])
    DllStructSetData($Systime,5,$dat[5])
    DllStructSetData($Systime,6,$dat[6])
    DllStructSetData($Systime,7,$dat[7])
    DllStructSetData($Systime,8,$dat[8])
  Else
    Consolewrite("Set relative time" & @cr)
    ; Set relative time
    $units = StringLower($units)
    Local $validUnit=False
    For $UU in StringSplit("years,months,days,hours,minutes,seconds,milliseconds",",")
      If $units=$UU then $validUnit=True
    Next
    If $validUnit=False Then ConsoleWriteError("Invalid Unit: " & $units & @CRLF)
    
    $increment=Number($increment)
    ConsoleWrite($increment & @crlf)
    Select
      Case $units="years"
        $data = DllStructGetData($Systime,1)+$increment
        $C=__Cycle($data,1601,30827)
        DllStructSetData($Systime,1,$data)
      Case $units="months"
        $data = DllStructGetData($Systime,2)+$increment
        $C = __Cycle($data,1,12)        
        DllStructSetData($Systime,2,$data)
        If $C <> 0 then API_SetLocalTime($C, "years")
      Case $units="days"
        $data = DllStructGetData($Systime,4)+$increment
        $param = _DateDaysInMonth(DllStructGetData($Systime,1), DllStructGetData($Systime,2))
        $C = __Cycle($data, 1, $param)
        DllStructSetData($Systime,4,$data)
        If $C <> 0 then API_SetLocalTime($C, "months")
      Case $units="hours"
        $data = DllStructGetData($Systime,5)+$increment
        $C = __Cycle($data,0,23)        
        DllStructSetData($Systime,5,$data)
        If $C <> 0 then API_SetLocalTime($C, "days")
      Case $units="minutes"
        $data = DllStructGetData($Systime,6)+$increment
        $C = __Cycle($data,0,59)        
        DllStructSetData($Systime,6,$data)
        If $C <> 0 then API_SetLocalTime($C, "hours")
      Case $units="seconds"
        $data = DllStructGetData($Systime,7)+$increment
        $C = __Cycle($data,0,59)        
        DllStructSetData($Systime,7,$data)
        If $C <> 0 then API_SetLocalTime($C, "minutes")
      Case $units="milliseconds"
        $data = DllStructGetData($Systime,8)+$increment
        $C = __Cycle($data,0,999)      
        DllStructSetData($Systime,8,$data)
        If $C <> 0 then API_SetLocalTime($C, "seconds")
    EndSelect
  EndIf
  
  $arg = DllCall("kernel32.dll","long","SetLocalTime","ptr",DllStructGetPtr($Systime))
  $Systime=0
  ConsoleWrite($ARG & @CRLF)
  If $arg=0 then
    return 0
  else
    return 1
  EndIf
EndFunc

Func __Cycle(byref $data, $min, $max)
  $inc = 0
  While $data > $max
    $data = $data - ($max-$min)
    $inc += 1
  WEnd
  While $data < $min
    $data = $data + $max
    $inc -= 1
  WEnd
  return $inc
EndFunc
That is in auto it. A completely worthless windows based language. In any other useful language it would be a lot bigger.
Old 01-17-2007, 08:29 PM  
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JakeCourtney's Avatar
Re: The Supposed "Leaked Video of Zune Linux" -- Biggest Hoax of 2007

Yes. I have programming experience in multiple languages. Mostly Java, but I've dabbled in C++. I know that something simple can create a lot of code. That doesn't mean a whole lot though to the machine. That is code in human readable form. What gets compiled into machine language that doesn't look so daunting. Trust me, a clock is pretty simple with the Zune's hardware. Just because it takes a large amount of human-readable instructions doesn't mean the end-product will be complicated.
Old 01-17-2007, 08:51 PM JakeCourtney is offline  
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Mys Videl
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Re: The Supposed "Leaked Video of Zune Linux" -- Biggest Hoax of 2007

Alright. Program one in Binary or ASM and tell me if it isn't complicated.
Old 01-17-2007, 10:56 PM  
#24  
 
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Re: The Supposed "Leaked Video of Zune Linux" -- Biggest Hoax of 2007

You don't understand what I'm trying to say. To us even the simple clock is complicated. The average CPU now a days can handle those instruction sets with ease. To us it seems like a lot, but to the CPU its a walk in the park.
Old 01-18-2007, 02:14 AM JakeCourtney is offline  
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Re: The Supposed "Leaked Video of Zune Linux" -- Biggest Hoax of 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by aross6
Quote:
Originally Posted by putis616

I still don't get why people want a clock so much.
Honestly.... don't people have watches anymore?
I have a watch, but I barely use it. I have one that I wear just for show, but I never read it unless I really want the time.
Also when I'm listening to music and flying by and **** like that, I want to know the time, I'm just a person that absolutely needs to know the time at all times of the day.. Well almost all the time.
When I work out I don't have a watch on so I never know the time...
My 2 year old Dell DJ had a clock on it for chrissakes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mys Videl
Alright. Program one in Binary or ASM and tell me if it isn't complicated.
My god you fool, reread his posts with a open mind. He's saying that to the human it is a huge amount of coding and work to do, to the computer it is nothing compared to running Starcraft or a game or something.
Old 01-18-2007, 09:37 AM Corrupt is offline  
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Mys Videl
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Re: The Supposed "Leaked Video of Zune Linux" -- Biggest Hoax of 2007

You apparently don't understand why we need such powerful processors now do you? Code is code, the processor handles what we see and what everything else should see. It isn't just going to see machine code, everything I/O at some point goes through the processor no matter what. Sure to the processor it isn't much, but that doesn't mean it isn't complicated. Who the f*** cares wether it is simple to the processor or not. You're asking people to program it in to the Zune arien't you? You're not asking the Zunes hardware to s*** out a clock.

Edit: Wanted to make it clear which curse words I was using.
Old 01-18-2007, 11:48 AM  
#27  
Re: The Supposed "Leaked Video of Zune Linux" -- Biggest Hoax of 2007

Screw the clock.... I mean who in the civilized world doesn't have a cell phone these days anyways?!?!?*

*and if you don't, use that age-old method of asking someone for the time.....

In my opinion, if programmers are going to be working on something for the Zune, it's a Linux distro. The only problem with this is that anyone who says they are working on it/making progress on it is going to be called a Liar unless the show at least a little bit of proof.... which is where I believe this whole debacle began. Anyone will to offer up some legit proof??? Any takers???
Old 01-18-2007, 03:11 PM aross6 is offline  
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