Zune HD v2 Rumors and More Rumors?

February 5, 2010 by ACE 

We here at Zuneboards have gotten some delicious news that will require you to first grab and ingest some salt. Got it? Good, let’s continue.

We’re reliably informed that Microsoft is working on the next generation Zune HD complete with Nvidia’s Tegra 2 processor, increased storage capacity, and more colors. If that’s not enough, there’s more.

There’s to be a spring update for all current Zunes (which was skipped last year) which is reportedly going to include some gems. First, there is said to be a video pass in the works. For about $10 per month, you’ll have unlimited access to select video content. Details are still being ironed out over what content is going to be available. Also, the Zune Pass and music Marketplace will migrate over to Xbox to allow XBL users access to unlimited downloads. There is also supposed to be an increased amount of supported codecs for Zune later in the year. Want more? Well:

The fabled Zune Phone isn’t really going to be what you may think, but it will be a Windows Phone with Zune AND Xbox functionality baked in. No word yet who the carrier will be, but we’ve heard something before. This may be announced as early as this month in Barcelona.

So what’s the time table for these deals? The spring update should come sometime in March, while the Zune HD v2 is said to be released in Q4 of this year.

One bit of reality - these rumors should remain in the realm of unicorns and leprechauns until some more solid announcements are made, but who can’t live without a little something to look forward to, hrm? We’ll definitley let you know once we hear anything more.

[img of 1st Gen Zune HD via Robert Nelson]

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If there is a zune hd 2 already i will take a **** on Steve Ballmer you havent done **** with this one yet...
Old 02-05-2010, 08:09 PM Dark Phoenix is online now  
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Great article, ACE!

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Nice!
(You might want to credit Robert Nelson, who originally posted that on Flickr. Especially since that is licensed with a CC-BY-2.0.)
Old 02-05-2010, 08:18 PM Pokeyourheadoff is offline  
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While im hoping for the Zune family to grow, Id prefer some new services for the already existent Zune over new hardware already.

Build up a solid foundation of software and you can stick all the new varieties of hardware you want on it.

Good to hear some news anyways. Thanks for the info.
Old 02-05-2010, 08:19 PM HAVOKKSKI is offline  
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Come on...what about those of us who just bought a ZuneHD? What are we going to do if they start making ZuneHD v2-exclusive crap...that's bull, Microsoft. That's also a bad way to treat your customers.
Old 02-05-2010, 08:31 PM shinkukage09 is offline  
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Tegra 2 is for MIDs and netbooks aka smartbooks.

Zune HD will do nothing with a dualcore Cortex A9. Better keep the current (cheaper) Tegra APX SoC in this *cough* music and video player *cough* and pass the savings to your customers by lowering the price on the device.
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Tegra 2 is for MIDs and netbooks aka smartbooks.
Yeah, that's what I hear, but I've also heard from reliable sources that MS is in fact trying to cram it into the next gen Zune HD
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Yeah, that's what I hear, but I've also heard from reliable sources that MS is in fact trying to cram it into the next gen Zune HD
If we assume that the second generation Zune HD will have the Tegra 250 (Tegra 2), it strongly suggests the following:

Its firmware will be based on Windows CE 7.0 (which is going to be released by then). The Tegra 250 is dual-core, which means that the firmware would have to be based on Windows CE 7.0 in order to use both cores. It would be a waste to put a dual-core SoC in a device if it can not use both cores.

It will have at least 512 MB of RAM. Currently, there are two (known) versions of the Tegra 250, one with 512 MB of RAM and one with 1 GB of RAM. A second generation Zune HD would likely have the lower amount of RAM, to keep the cost down.

It will be mainly a portable gaming device. The Tegra 250 has graphics capabilities comparable to modern consoles. If Microsoft is going to put the Tegra 250 into a device, they will use that opportunity to enter the handheld gaming market. In the past they said they were planning making a handheld gaming device but they were not ready yet. It seems like it would be the best time for them to do it. However, since the next Nintendo DS is going to have the Tegra 250, I do not know how well that would work. They would pretty much be the same device, but look different.

The last part is more speculation, but the first two points are very likely assuming the rumor is true.

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I can't wait to see what happens
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maybe they will finally release a version of xna that allows for 3D games
Old 02-05-2010, 11:29 PM Matt is online now  
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I think tegra 2 will be very important going forward... esp with epic being on board with tegra 2 and not tegra 1. Not sure if it would be a zune device over a wm7+zune+xbox device.

I am actually interested to see what the video subscription would entail content wise. I am a big fan of netflix's model but they really can't even come close to competing with the quality of xbox streaming. Sad to see according to the price it looks like it would be very limited (tv shows) and not tv shows and movies. I'd pay $35/month to add tv shows and movies to my current music zune pass. (would save $10 dropping netflix)

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If we assume that the second generation Zune HD will have the Tegra 250 (Tegra 2), it strongly suggests the following:

Its firmware will be based on Windows CE 7.0 (which is going to be released by then). The Tegra 250 is dual-core, which means that the firmware would have to be based on Windows CE 7.0 in order to use both cores. It would be a waste to put a dual-core SoC in a device if it can not use both cores.

It will have at least 512 MB of RAM. Currently, there are two (known) versions of the Tegra 250, one with 512 MB of RAM and one with 1 GB of RAM. A second generation Zune HD would likely have the lower amount of RAM, to keep the cost down.

It will be mainly a portable gaming device. The Tegra 250 has graphics capabilities comparable to modern consoles. If Microsoft is going to put the Tegra 250 into a device, they will use that opportunity to enter the handheld gaming market. In the past they said they were planning making a handheld gaming device but they were not ready yet. It seems like it would be the best time for them to do it. However, since the next Nintendo DS is going to have the Tegra 250, I do not know how well that would work. They would pretty much be the same device, but look different.

The last part is more speculation, but the first two points are very likely assuming the rumor is true.
Microsoft should just focus on being a PMP with games as an afterthought. I don't think they really want to try and go against the handheld giant Nintendo. Or Sony for that matter. Especially if they won't release overseas.
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If they leave us zhd customers behind wow that would make me over the edge angry that they did nothing with this device if they failed to do anything with the zune hd they are going to fail again because MS simply does not learn their lesson and I doubt it would replace the zune hd if anything it would MS portable gaming system
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What do you think they mean with the unlimited downloads for dbl customers.......like music,movies/tv show and games.....just doesn't seem right...don't get me wrong I would love this...but I don't see what they are talking about
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What do you think they mean with the unlimited downloads for dbl customers.......like music,movies/tv show and games.....just doesn't seem right...don't get me wrong I would love this...but I don't see what they are talking about
Its like the Zune Pass. If you stop paying the monthly price, you lose whatever you've downloaded
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If they leave us zhd customers behind wow that would make me over the edge angry that they did nothing with this device if they failed to do anything with the zune hd they are going to fail again because MS simply does not learn their lesson and I doubt it would replace the zune hd if anything it would MS portable gaming system
Try using punctuation. Please.

And stop complaining. This is the natural progression of technology. If a company just kept on updating old hardware, nothing would progress and evolve. Yeah, it sucks if you just bought a Zune HD, but learn to live with it. No one's gonna make you buy the Zune HD2.
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Im very excited about video pass. Nice and cheap too. Should front page this
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absolutely LOVING the video pass
Old 02-06-2010, 11:03 AM Taboo is offline  
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Iv'e been a fan of zune since i got my Z30 but i just got a ZHD32 and when it dies i am switching over to itouch i am so tired of microsoft coming out with something new and leaving their past products in the dark. I absolutely despise apple but this is getting ridiculous.
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